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Awww mn



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so whaddup with those 28pgs blacked out by the bush admin?  Reply with quote  

the administration blacked out 28 pages of the congressional report on pre-9/11 intelligence that supposedly goes into detail the level of involvement the saudi gov't had in funding the hijackers.

doesn't this shit seem...i don't know...a little, tiny tiny bit blatantly corrrupt? is the average fox news fan taking heed finally? i don't know.

ha ha. remember when they hired kissinger to do the 9/11 probe and then he resigned probably because of all his saudi business clients?

shit is sooOOO funny!

motherfucking goddamn, i never experienced the nixon adminstration but i think the current one does match it in secrecy and backroom dealings.
Post Tue Jul 29, 2003 11:59 am
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zeem



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ill bet theres so much shit that none of us know about that tells all about 9/11, im sure they knew it was coming. 9/11 is now what bush will use as reason to get re-elected, and explain the war.
Post Tue Jul 29, 2003 12:04 pm
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He shouldn't be able to get re-elected after going after Iraq. It seems clear Saudi Arabia is a much bigger threat to american security.

I mean, in this so called "war on terrorism" how can there be no consequences for the government that directly funded those responsible for 9/11?

Stupid dumfuckin country. Hunter S. Thompson who did live through and loathe the nixon administration says this one is a million times worse. By the by. Since you wondered.
Post Tue Jul 29, 2003 12:33 pm
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Dee



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Reagan was worse than Nixon, I contend. Fuckin' Iran Contra?


Anyway, yeah, his approval ratings SHOULD be dropping..they are a little...right?
Post Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:55 pm
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futuristxen



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And Iran contra wasn't even the worst shit that the Reagan administration did. They were bastards as well.
Post Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:00 pm
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Nixon wasn't all bad by any means. He was in fact the last great liberal president. Don't believe me? Look at his accomplishments: raised funding for the arts, forced through price controls on food items to keep them affordable, was the first president to ever visit China. And (perhaps most importantly), he ended our involvement in Vietnam -- something that neither of the two Democratic presidents preceeding him did.

Nixon was a grade A Asshole, and he did lie to the American public, but to judge him the worst president ever based solely on these facts is to wholly ignore the many great things he really did.
Post Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:15 am
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Its the freemason charter,and a couple pics of tawney lee giving Al ROT i mean Gore fellacio
Post Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:50 am
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I think she just meant he was the most CORRUPT president, not the worst.

More info on Nixon: At one point, he wanted to give housing to all americans. Socialized housing.



What a fucking communist. :p
Post Wed Jul 30, 2003 1:14 am
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bush is going to be reelected

unless they REALLY fuck up...I mean, they already have...but you know how it is. It's gotta be on Fox News and Cnn...

"Gov't Fucks Up"

for people to even care. And even then...

Anyway, I'm 100% sure Bush is going to be reelected. There are people in this country that think he is the best president EVER. Who else are all republicans going to vote for simply because they're republican? And what other option does the average asshole voter have?

I myself would elect a dolphin instead of bush, since he's not really the one running shit anyway...
Post Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:17 am
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Nixon also had the best Wellfare ideas too. I belive it was nixon anyway.

His idea for wellfare would be to just cut everyone a check. That way you could drop all of the beuracracy that you have to go through to get on wellfare ect. i guess according to some economistis it would be the best way to go, because not only would it stimulate the economy, it would cut government costs.

And yeah, the bush administration is bullshit. i really hope the bush admnisistration doesnt get re elected. Everything they have done since day 1 has been shady, and completely motivated by big business. Gogo enron!

oh yeah and i would really really like to see everyone on this board vote. The statistics you see for approval ratings can and are likely really misleading.
Post Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:19 am
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RandomSurge wrote:
bush is going to be reelected

unless they REALLY fuck up...I mean, they already have...but you know how it is. It's gotta be on Fox News and Cnn...

"Gov't Fucks Up"

for people to even care. And even then...

Anyway, I'm 100% sure Bush is going to be reelected. There are people in this country that think he is the best president EVER. Who else are all republicans going to vote for simply because they're republican? And what other option does the average asshole voter have?

I myself would elect a dolphin instead of bush, since he's not really the one running shit anyway...
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Last time around, Bush lost the popular vote by 543,000 votes. Which is meaningless in the big scheme of things, but hear me out. Do you honestly think anyone who was wise enough to vote for Gore last time around is going to be pleased with Bush enough to vote for him in a year? Iraq is going to be a holy fucking mess by then, which is exactly what us liberals TRIED to tell everyone. And the economy will not have picked up enough (if it does at all, which I think it won't have) for Bush to say "look what I did for the economy!" Plus, you're overlooking the most important factor. 3 million people voted for Ralph fuckin' Nader last time. Provided he keeps his hypocritical ass out of it this time, that's 3 million votes for the democratic candidate. Bush is not guaranteed to win AT ALL.

Bush's radical politics have also created a whole new generation of activists, including me, who are willing to bust their ass working on campaigns to get him out office. I think this is going to be significant. So don't give up yet!!

The only possible thing that could seal it up for him is a terrorist attack. Which is not outside the realm of possibility, unfortunately.
Post Wed Jul 30, 2003 8:40 am
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McLirious



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my latest idea...  Reply with quote  

It would be much appreciated if someone could create and post an image
of a stopsign but with BUSH instead of STOP. I want to make stickers and
t-shirts. DIY is not an option with these restrictive lab machines they
expect me to get shit done on. Thank you.
Post Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:41 pm
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just curious, who do you guys see yourselves voting for?

i want to hear more of his ideas, but (if he runs) i'm leaning towards McCain (sp). right now i only have the most basic knowledge of him, but i what i do know... i like.
Post Wed Jul 30, 2003 1:41 pm
 
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I would vote for McCain if he ran. But I think that's not going to happen. Cause...he's a repulican. Party politics aside, he's my favorite person in politics.

Pretty much I'll vote for whoever the Dems have running against bush. I never wanted to get to the point where I was voting against a guy. But this is a case where it has to be done.

And what's all this shit about how great a president Nixon was? Doesn't him being an evil, evil, man count for anything? The guy was running a police state.

Hunter S. wrote books upon books about Nixon. I suggest some of you go read them.
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Awww mn



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no. reagan was not worse than nixon  Reply with quote  

fuck.

i cannot believe that rap fans of all people will defend motherfucking richard nixon of all leeches. iran contra is nothing compared to the genocide orchestrated during he nixon-kissinger reign.

yeah, he was a great guy! a wife beater, an anti-semite, racist, inhumane, lying little angel. and i heard that kissinger volunteered in a soup kitchen between murdering thousands of people.

p.s. i suggest y'all rent 'the trial of henry kissinger' for some perspective. jesus.

http://www.salon.com/news/col/scheer/2002/03/06/nixon/index.html

The new Nixon tapes
The new tapes that capture Nixon denouncing the "stranglehold" of "untrustworthy" Jews and arguing that we should nuke Vietnam reveal his deep capacity for evil.
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By Robert Scheer

March 6, 2002 | It's been three decades since President Richard M. Nixon was taped in the White House delivering anti-Semitic rants on how Jews are the scourge of our nation, why we should nuke Vietnam and how that infamous photo of a naked 9-year-old girl fleeing a napalm attack was actually a fake. Because of the time lag, these latest revelations of Nixon's depravity have elicited a big media yawn, with the story landing back by the classifieds in most of the newspapers that even carried it.

Unfortunately, this editorial apathy is a reflection of a misguided American perception that the past is largely irrelevant to the future.

In tapes released last week, Nixon warns the Rev. Billy Graham that the Jews control the media and endorses Graham's statement that "this stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain" -- a sentiment assuredly echoed in the surviving cells of al-Qaida. In another conversation, with former Texas Gov. John B. Connolly, Nixon is heard saying of Jews, "They're untrustworthy ... Look at the Justice Department. It's full of Jews."

Elsewhere on the tapes, Nixon chats with Henry Kissinger about the escalating bombing of Vietnam and interjects that "I'd rather use the nuclear bomb."


He even chides Kissinger for being overly worried about civilian victims: "You're so goddamned concerned about the civilians, and I don't give a damn. I don't care."

As if to prove this grim claim, Nixon callously dismisses the Pulitzer Prize-winning photograph of the girl fleeing napalm bomb attacks as "fixed" -- a sentiment worthy of Slobodan Milosevic.

At another point, news arrives of the shooting of George Wallace, the former Alabama governor, who was expected to run in the 1972 election. Nixon, without missing a beat, says to blame the assassination attempt on the Democrats: "Just say he [the shooter] was a supporter of [George] McGovern and [Ted] Kennedy. Just put that out ... Say you have it on unmistakable evidence."

These tapes are more than just fodder for a biographer's footnotes. They give us a bracing insight into the beastly side of our own nature that can manifest itself in our leaders, even though we are a fundamentally decent people.

If we listen to the words of this two-term wartime president, we will find an indelible record of a leader's capacity for deep evil.

Nixon may not have been the worst of our presidents, but, through the accident of his penchant for secret recordings, he is certainly the most revealed. The Nixon Library should transform itself into an institute for the study of official mendacity so that we may be reminded why the Constitution was written: to protect the citizenry from the corruptions of power.

Of course, Nixon is dead, and Graham, now 83, has just apologized; it would be easy enough to ignore these horrific conversations as the ramblings of an already discredited president.

But when we are busy condemning national chauvinism, religious hatred and war crimes abroad, it is no time to whitewash our own past. To utter such thoughts invites the riposte that one seeks to weaken our nation rather than strengthen it.

Thankfully, this country has a clear history of questioning sanctimonious expressions of authority, and the release of these tapes, however late, is a clear example of that.

It is hard to imagine many other nations making such information public without being forced by revolution.

In fact, for every Richard Nixon in U.S. history, there has been a George McGovern who dared to speak truth to power. A highly decorated combat pilot in World War II, McGovern took on Nixon before Watergate, with a bold stand against the Vietnam War that allowed demagogues to spit on a true hero's patriotism.

Although well ahead in the polls, Nixon was so intent on destroying his opponent in the 1972 presidential race -- in the tapes, he refers to McGovern as a "damn socialist with a blind spot for communists" -- that he set in motion the Watergate break-in of the Democratic Party headquarters to look for smear material.

Playing the devil, Nixon was finally burned by the hot breath of history that was unleashed by his own greed for power.


salon.com

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About the writer
Robert Scheer is a syndicated columnist.

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