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Captiv8 wrote:
The American people hold the power, but they're fooled into believing that they are powerless, or that the decisions are too difficult for them to make. Wrong. The greatest strength of the American people is their size in comparison to the government.


Exactly. And it's not just the numbers, it's the production aspect. Government doesn't produce anything, people do. Although, unfortunately most of that is done overseas now but that is part of the problem also. We have to get back to basics and reconnect with each other if we want to save our crumbling society.

As for civil disobedience, it obviously has its risks but it is sometimes necessary. I really believe that direct democracy will take over soon enough. It's a very powerful idea that most everybody would be into it and we have the technology to make it happen. It would be sweet irony if government jobs get outsourced by machines. ha!

But even then, the real problems of our society goes even deeper than that. It's the decision making/actions of our daily lives that makes all the impact. Instead of "FIGHTING" the system we have to build our own that will replace the old one.
Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:41 pm
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futuristxen wrote:
If you can control the narrative in the media and the narrative in the social media--you can control the country because that's how America works right now.


Social engineering. Building societies. That's why we need critical thinkers and media producers as consumers. Participatory media.
Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:51 pm
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It looks like you're trying to vote. Do you need some help with that?

Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:05 pm
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I can't understand this "oh fuck the lesser of two evils, obama aint that great" logic.

what the fuck man?

The other guy believes he will have a planet to rule in the afterlife and a bad haircut that looks like an oversized lego hat... how can you give him nuclear codes?

Surely obama has done soooome good things? I get it, drone strikes and a bunch of other shady shit, but when has politics ever worked like that? Some big sweeping shit never happens, its all gradual as fuck. But then you look back and think wooaa when did that happen, like gay rights in the UK, dudes were out on the streets in the 80s to just protest people kicking the shit out of them, now the majority of the public think anyone who opposes gay marriage is less credible than a glass eyed, wart covered, perry drinking UFO spotter who preserves his own shit in jars. I mean, shit, even if obama represents a tiiiiiny hammer chipping away at the concrete tower of bullshit, surely its better to keep him there - chipping away at it, rather than let a fucking plasterer in to fix it up?


Over here, our only legitimate opposition is run by ed milliband who has the charisma of a wilted dandelion soaked in pugg piss, yet god dammit i cannot wait to the next election to give him my vote - just to be given the chance of kicking out the tory forehead cunt that minces around in government cry wanking into a baggie of Rebekah Brooks ginger pube shavings. God damn it people, my fist. I shake it at the screen.
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Why do people think they can only choose between red or blue? The answer is a mirror facing a mirror.
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u what poet laureate? a mirror facing a mirror... is that some kind of masonic, laser shooting super power?
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what do you see when you look in the mirror?
Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:21 pm
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Well a mirror versus a mirror creates the Droste effect, or recursion, so I'm not sure what this chat is about. Unless you're talking about Buddhism.

Anyway, this pretty much explains how voting works:

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firefly wrote:
what do you see when you look in the mirror?


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firefly wrote:
what do you see when you look in the mirror?


Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:18 pm
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haha

My point is people think that they have to vote for either blue or red because people think they have to vote either blue or red.
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I voted Green. <3

That's what Jesus would have done.
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i was positive that the pres was decided upon 3 years ago. absolutely shocked (and PUMPED) that i am wrong.

and maine repealed the repeal on gay union.

sometimes i get a breath of fresh air, lets see how long it lasts

and word to fox news being totally baffled as to what to say/present. no comedy is funnier than watching you.

fuck bigots.

fuck (non-sexual) spinners.

but...please obama, speak for the regular person like you did before you were pre-president. please revert to/have the staying power to stand for the common person. we are the ones that voted for you to get so much cash after your term and social security
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