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AdamBomb



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Nas needs ghost producers that make beats that knock. His new album has the worst mastering ever...none of the kicks have any knock or attack to speak of. No wonder DJ Premier wasn't on there...he would have been out of place amongst these buttersoft weakbeats.
Post Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:16 pm
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T-Wrex
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Fuck a ghostwriter.
It's all about the finished product.



Look at all the great Motown music.
None of it was made by one person.

Gillie Da Kid used to ghostwrite for Lil Wayne.. then he went to jail.. so Wayne hired Drake to ghostwrite.

Dr.Dre is one of my favorite rappers, and he doesn't even write raps.

Hell yeah.

He barely makes his own beats (Storch, MelMan, Yella, Quik, Percee P, etc).

Nas's problem is quality control, not the fact that he buys prewritten material from other artists.
Post Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:00 pm
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pedavis



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SFR announcement wrote:
pedavis wrote:
Nas keeps trying, but I've still never listened to illmatic. just to spite Nas.


I've got a beautiful nose but an ugly face. I cut off my nose to spite it. YOLO!


ahh i say it in jest. i really have meant to listen to illmatic.
Post Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:29 pm
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Neuro
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illmatic is hiphop history . learn your lessons kid
Post Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:47 pm
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The sad fact is, I've seen people who are used to how hiphop sounds NOW go back and listen to Illmatic, they're like "Wha? This is lame."

Same with PE's "It Takes a Nation."

And, because of that, I accept that I'm officially old and kids are officially fucking stupid.
Post Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:28 pm
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Prontoid



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SFR announcement wrote:
The sad fact is, I've seen people who are used to how hiphop sounds NOW go back and listen to Illmatic, they're like "Wha? This is lame."

Same with PE's "It Takes a Nation."

And, because of that, I accept that I'm officially old and kids are officially fucking stupid.





kids nowadays have too many options - they can download a hundred mixtapes in an hour - skip through them to find the five songs they like - play them for a few weeks then move onto the next - you can't blame them for having far too many options at there fingertips (and generally listeningto sucky music)

I remember listening to albums over and over again until I "got" them - coz if I had an album I'd either bought it or had it dubbed from a friend - I'd get an album a month - if I was lucky maybe two - I forced myself to listen to stuff that didn't initially grab me at least 20 times just in case that would change - often it did - I would record every hiphop radio show and then spend the week listening to them deciding the songs I liked to add to a master mix tape later in the week - all of these things are probably foreign concepts to anyone under the age of even 25 -

I think people over estimate how much the stars aligned on Illmatic which is why Nas has had this weird career expectation since - its not like he wasn't rapping questionable verses like this two years later:

"Now what's a don?, a nigga that's a thug wit charm, always on point
...You could tell by the finger nails, clean, hair diced up, every four days
A weekly routine, where he lived, stay out the hood, fuck what a nigga say" blah blah
Post Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:54 am
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mancabbage



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it ain't all doom and gloom, anyone heard this guy? 17 years old from NY and hes smashing it, making hip hop with those drums oh yes. Discovered this today, made my day man

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Post Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:49 am
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Jesse Custer



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Fucking awesome. Cheers!!
Post Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:34 am
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mancabbage



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no probs man, good init.

all those tracks are from this mixtape http://www.datpiff.com/Joey-Bada-1999-mixtape.361792.html free dl
Post Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:59 am
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mortalthoughts
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SFR announcement wrote:


Same with PE's "It Takes a Nation."

And, because of that, I accept that I'm officially old and kids are officially fucking stupid.


that was one of the first hip hop albums ive ever heard a few year after its initial release.....didnt realize how much of a statement that album was making. till years later (i was 8 or 9 ) great album
Post Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:06 pm
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Sarcastro



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mancabbage wrote:
no probs man, good init.

all those tracks are from this mixtape http://www.datpiff.com/Joey-Bada-1999-mixtape.361792.html free dl


That Survival Tactics track is fiyyyaaaaaa
Post Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:32 pm
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kese



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Jay Electronica Denies Ghostwriting for Nas

Same with Stic.man...

haha, Also came across an article saying Nas ghostwrote this:

Sounds like some Firm shit...


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Post Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:26 pm
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Neuro
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awesome
Post Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:11 pm
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kese



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jakethesnake
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I remember seeing an interview with biggie's mom saying he pretty much grew up in a decent middle-class family and got A's in school and was never really a full time dealer/hardcore gangsta. Then I realized, I don't really care, I love me some biggie. Dude's half man half amazing.

I sometimes wonder if slug ever did see that women with the tattooed hands.

It ain't hard to tell.
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