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pedavis



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Post Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:52 pm
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Captiv8



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I don't understand how you were convicted of a crime this serious when you were twelve years old and clearly a minor. Being that you were a minor at that time, you should have been tried in juvenile court. If this was the case, I believe a juvenile record can be ajudicated. You need to get a lawyer in on this. If everything you're saying is true I can't see a judge worth their shit holding fast to a lifetime sentence like this. A good lawyer can do what it takes, dependent upon the state you are in. That's my advice, man. This is a fucked up situation.
Post Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:45 pm
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Captiv8



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My second bit of advice is to edit your op/ delete thread. Only a lawyer can help you with this kind of thing. No need to draw unnecessary and negative attention to yourself.
Post Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:34 pm
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PatrickBateman



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This is an incredibly sad story. You should contact Change.org, the ACLU, The Nationals Lawyers Guild, and any other helpful entity with a very well written and compellingly true story about what happened. Best of luck.
Post Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:29 pm
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poopsnack



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it's too bad that illegal stuff wasn't on that ipod you had stolen. It's be sweet if those douchebags had the feds up in their shit.
Post Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:15 pm
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futuristxen



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Huh. I would have never thought it would have been illegal for a child to look at child porn--for the child anyways.

I guess this type of thing happens with sexting as well with high school kids.

It just doesn't really seem like what the law is intended for.
Post Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:25 pm
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knowrites



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futuristxen wrote:
Huh. I would have never thought it would have been illegal for a child to look at child porn--for the child anyways.

I guess this type of thing happens with sexting as well with high school kids.

It just doesn't really seem like what the law is intended for.

child porn is always illegal, however in the cases of high school sexting i've heard of some leniency. i suppose the difference would be in the pro-active role in seeking out child porn vs. receiving it unsolicited in a text.

i would still think there would be leniency for a 12 year old, and maybe there was, but i'd seek some kind of counseling and delete this post.
Post Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:59 pm
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Sage Francis
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Why are people telling Pedavis to delete his post? He's already been convicted of the crime. He was 12 years old. He's looking for some help and/or assistance from the forum now as he's run into further complications. This is far out of my realm, but it seems other people are able to make some sense of this.
Post Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:02 pm
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mzehe916



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I grew up before the internetz was world wide. We used to draw outlines of the girls we liked on the floors of the houses being built. There we would just lay on the outlines and enjoy the feeling of the fresh plywood skin under our bodies. When we were more advanced we would make fake boobs in the dirt and dig a hole in her no-no zone and lay on top of that. Only laying. No humping, dirt penetration or anything like that.

On a more helpful note, I was arrested for something entirely different when I was 17 and the day after my 18th birthday I went to city hall and had my records sealed. Now, I don't know if sealing a record is exactly the same as clearing it 100%. I think it is only sealing it from public access. I have a feeling that if I ran for president then word would get out rather quickly that I did in fact smoke weed in the paint booth of my high school auto shop class.

I would agree that you should get a lawyer on this. Actually, craigslist legal forum helped me out big time on a legal matter once. The people there were dropping mad knowledge and (city codes, ordinances, etc) so that when a lawyer called me to battle I just dropped some legal mumbo jumbo on him that other people suggested and he never called back. Of course, use it at your own risk. I'm just saying, always keep your dogs on a leash in the city. It is the law!

Side thought: I am currently surrounded by lawyers in my group of friends. Which is great for me, because I'm not well versed on German law (people can sue you for flipping them off!!!!!). As much as I hate frivolous lawyers, it is always good to have a few decent ones in your pocket.
Post Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:47 am
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GrantherBirdly
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I don't have anything constructive to add except that that is incredibly fucked and I'm sorry to hear about it. Definitely consult some legal counsel and hopefully the mean will make a guest appearance to drop some certifiable info.
Post Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:23 am
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Sarcastro



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What the fuck???

You have to register as a sex offender and go to therapy for looking at pedo porn when you were a kid?? That's some fucked up shit.

Have judges, therapists, PO's, etc. ever just told you that this makes no sense or do they just tow the line and go with the word of the law?
Post Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:31 am
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anomaly
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law

"However, not all laws with ex post facto effects have been found to be unconstitutional. One current U.S. law that has an ex post facto effect is the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006. This law, which imposes new registration requirements on convicted sex offenders, also applies to offenders whose crimes were committed before the law was enacted.[11] The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Smith v. Doe (2003) that forcing sex offenders to register their whereabouts at regular intervals and the posting of personal information about them on the Internet does not violate the constitutional prohibition against ex post facto laws, because this does not constitute any kind of punishment.[12]"

Shitty man, I feel for you. Fuckin' John Walsh...
Post Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:14 am
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anomaly
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After thinking about this more, don't let this $100 ruin your day. I got a DWI in 2005 that will be on my record the rest of my life. I have been turned down from a job because of it. It set me back $15,000.

It's going to be okay.
Post Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:59 pm
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Captiv8



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A DWI doesn't carry the same stigma as being on a sex offender registry (which is the real concern).
Post Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:21 pm
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the mean
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I don't know anything about criminal law, and it seems odd that something you did when you were 12 is sticking to you like this.

I have done some work on these sex offender registration changes. The story you told is pretty common. People took pleas thinking that they would only have to register for a short period of time and then the registration period got changed.

There is a quick outline of the new law here -
http://www.loraincountysheriff.com/Page.aspx?id=159

Cases are working there way through the courts right now. Here in Ohio, the court struck down the law as applied exactly in your situation -
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/04/04/court-pares-sex-offender-law.html

Columbus Dispatch wrote:
Automatically making juvenile sex offenders register with law-enforcement agencies for life and putting their names and photos on the Internet are cruel and unusual punishments, the Ohio Supreme Court ruled yesterday in another rebuke of the state’s sex-offender law.


And our Supreme Court in Ohio is pretty conservative (only one Democrat.)

So, yeah, contact a lawyer.
Post Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:21 pm
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