poopsnack
Joined: 15 Jan 2004
Posts: 2811
Location: Mid West |
shocked no one has mentioned the Elephant In The Room -
girls have cooties.
cooties give you butterflies in your stomach. |
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:16 pm |
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mancabbage
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 9156
Location: london |
T-Wrex wrote: This only means one thing...
Sign C.R.A.Z.Y. and coach her up in the booth.
She's a diamond in the rough.
get her on a curtis plum track. |
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:52 pm |
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sarah q
Joined: 02 Dec 2009
Posts: 175
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Sage Francis wrote: It just seems like that would be the more obvious question, but the answer is pretty much the same.
If I had been criticizing the publishing company for their lack of racial diversity (which they have improved upon, but are not stellar at), I assure you that would have been the question. But the person who left the comment was attempting to fight fire with fire and I was challenging their lack of female representation. |
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:11 pm |
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sarah q
Joined: 02 Dec 2009
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i.e. this issue isn't actually a serious concern of theirs. |
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:12 pm |
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Sage Francis
Self Fighteous
Joined: 30 Jun 2002
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Understood. If that person had any bit of fight in them they'd hit closer to home and ask why PFA consisted entirely of straight white men. CUZ THAT...AIN'T...RIGHT! |
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:18 pm |
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sarah q
Joined: 02 Dec 2009
Posts: 175
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha. |
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:57 pm |
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futuristxen
Joined: 01 Jul 2002
Posts: 19343
Location: Tighten Your Bible Belt |
It's ridiculous for anyone in books to be underrepresenting women, since I believe women make up disproportionate numbers of readers. Most of the best-selling books of late have been by female authors. Harry Potter. Twilight. Hunger Games. All were written by women.
So to be running a book publishing company and to not be publishing any women at all--just means you're not looking very well. Which is stupid. |
Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:01 pm |
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sarah q
Joined: 02 Dec 2009
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Well, in fairness they have published plenty of female authors. But they have definitely published more men, and their most recent round of authors who won a book deal was all men. The contest only opens every other year I believe. I would have been happy to see just one woman this round instead of five males.
What bothers me more than their lack of diversity is their fan base (many of which are their published authors) that will excuse them anything and say things like, "Oh yeah, well Strange Famous Records blah blah blah" instead of engaging in a dialogue about reasons why the company has had such trouble with diversity and what they are trying to do about it. |
Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:08 am |
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Charlie Foxtrot
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
Posts: 1379
Location: Rochester, NY |
lord soth wrote: T-Wrex wrote: Maybe SFR can trade Doomtree a third round draft pick for Dessa.
I mean.... A female emcee that can reference Bertrand Russel?
I couldn't think of a better fit.
Except she can't rap, and SFR typically signs people that can rap. Also, her writing style belongs on Fake Four with the rest of the literary try-too-hard whites. SFR is blue collar grimey shit. Sign Dessa and I will boycott. Until the next prolyphic album.
Blue collar grimey shit...led by a guy with a college degree...in journalism |
Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:23 pm |
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Sage Francis
Self Fighteous
Joined: 30 Jun 2002
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Who, that guy who had to take out massive loans to attend college while pursuing music on the side? Funding his own projects and spearheading a movement with little to no support from traditional channels? The guy who paid off his student loans as soon as he had the means and then helped his mom quit her two jobs so she could enjoy retirement? Blue collar...pff...no way. Get real.
I never knew that earning a degree in journalism came with such a shishi image. |
Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:39 pm |
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Captiv8
Joined: 25 Aug 2006
Posts: 8177
Location: Third Coast |
That actually sounds like a really terrific blue collar success story.
I have a college degree and I'm honing in on my MA, but I've also incurred serious student loan debt and worked in fucking factories to help pay it off. College doesn't negate blue collar status. |
Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:47 pm |
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GrantherBirdly
D&D addict
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
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sage is a .01%'er. Look at that white collar.
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:59 pm |
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futuristxen
Joined: 01 Jul 2002
Posts: 19343
Location: Tighten Your Bible Belt |
sarah q wrote: Well, in fairness they have published plenty of female authors. But they have definitely published more men, and their most recent round of authors who won a book deal was all men. The contest only opens every other year I believe. I would have been happy to see just one woman this round instead of five males.
What bothers me more than their lack of diversity is their fan base (many of which are their published authors) that will excuse them anything and say things like, "Oh yeah, well Strange Famous Records blah blah blah" instead of engaging in a dialogue about reasons why the company has had such trouble with diversity and what they are trying to do about it.
It's kind of crazy that someone out there is a huge fan of SFR, runs a book book publishing company, and is using their fandom of SFR to excuse excluding anyone. Talk about missing the point. |
Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:49 pm |
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Sage Francis
Self Fighteous
Joined: 30 Jun 2002
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It's also incredibly corny that they hold "contests" to determine who they'll publish. That's some truly lame poetry slam seepage. |
Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:06 pm |
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tommi teardrop
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 2180
Location: Las Vegas |
Can Jesse tell us what became of Penny?
And does heroine or lady heroine or whatever still rap? |
Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:10 pm |
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