redball
Joined: 12 May 2006
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I didn't pull any such punches, Jesse. I think it's absolutely unfair of me to assume smart people aren't religious and it's caused a couple of uncomfortable situations before. The irony is that my bias makes me the dumb one, and I'm an atheist. |
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Jesse
Joined: 02 Jul 2002
Posts: 6166
Location: privileged homeless |
redball wrote:
I didn't pull any such punches, Jesse. I think it's absolutely unfair of me to assume smart people aren't religious and it's caused a couple of uncomfortable situations before. The irony is that my bias makes me the dumb one, and I'm an atheist.
You're right, and even though I did say "almost every single person," I think that my observation does highlight one of MY unfair biases.
(I'm the same about religious people I respect and admire, btw) |
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Tue May 08, 2012 2:49 pm |
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jakethesnake
guy who cried about wrestling being real
Joined: 03 Feb 2006
Posts: 6248
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Jesse wrote:
redball wrote:
I didn't pull any such punches, Jesse. I think it's absolutely unfair of me to assume smart people aren't religious and it's caused a couple of uncomfortable situations before. The irony is that my bias makes me the dumb one, and I'm an atheist.
You're right, and even though I did say "almost every single person," I think that my observation does highlight one of MY unfair biases.
(I'm the same about religious people I respect and admire, btw)
I hope you included yourself in the almost group qtpie.
I definitely think my bias towards christianity is unfair. I have a lot of history behind the bias as well. I mentioned that too. |
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Tue May 08, 2012 3:04 pm |
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Limbs
Joined: 04 Feb 2011
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Is it unfair to question the intelligence of a theist given how much we have learned about our place in the Universe over the last century? |
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Tue May 08, 2012 3:18 pm |
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mzehe916
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
Posts: 4526
Location: Switzerland |
zagadka wrote:
People who tailgate and weave in and out of traffic only to get stuck at the same red light as you, I think they must feel really self important and "busy".
Americans are the worst drivers in the world. Fact. |
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Tue May 08, 2012 3:19 pm |
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phataccino
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
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Bring that Beat Back wrote:
phataccino wrote:
With only one exception that I can think of, I've never gotten to know a Canadian that I didn't end up liking. If I learn someone is Canadian, I assume I won't like them until they somehow prove otherwise. I blame The Mounty.
Is it me or do your first and second sentences contradict each other? What's that aboot eh?
That's what makes it an unfair prejudice. My initial reaction is always "effing Canadian," when my lifetime of experience is that I like Canadians. |
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Tue May 08, 2012 4:07 pm |
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selfworth
Joined: 07 Jun 2004
Posts: 1109
Location: maryland |
mzehe916 wrote:
zagadka wrote:
People who tailgate and weave in and out of traffic only to get stuck at the same red light as you, I think they must feel really self important and "busy".
Americans are the worst drivers in the world. Fact.
wrong, italy is number 1, the U.S. is #8 |
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Tue May 08, 2012 4:36 pm |
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futuristxen
Joined: 01 Jul 2002
Posts: 19343
Location: Tighten Your Bible Belt |
Limbs wrote:
Is it unfair to question the intelligence of a theist given how much we have learned about our place in the Universe over the last century?
Ones views on God tend to be culturally driven not intellectually. So yes.
As for prejuidices I don't have any. I change my mind too often and am too caught up in myself to walk that path. |
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Tue May 08, 2012 6:04 pm |
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Limbs
Joined: 04 Feb 2011
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Maybe that applies to children but I think we can hold adults to a little higher standard.
As adults we have the responsibilty to educate ourselves as much as possible. |
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Tue May 08, 2012 7:19 pm |
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Bicycle
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Who decided that it was my responsibility as an adult to educate myself as much as possible? |
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Tue May 08, 2012 7:30 pm |
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Prontoid
Joined: 07 Aug 2002
Posts: 1573
Location: Melbourne, Australia |
I broke up with a girl because she thought space exploration was a waste of time ... |
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Tue May 08, 2012 7:33 pm |
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futuristxen
Joined: 01 Jul 2002
Posts: 19343
Location: Tighten Your Bible Belt |
Limbs wrote:
Maybe that applies to children but I think we can hold adults to a little higher standard.
As adults we have the responsibilty to educate ourselves as much as possible.
Theism is not an education non education thing. You can for instance be well educated And a bills fan. Education and belief are not warring concepts. You can for instance be highly educated in theistic dogma and text. Intelligence is the minds aptitude for utilizing information in complex ways. It is not specific about what. |
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Tue May 08, 2012 7:40 pm |
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Limbs
Joined: 04 Feb 2011
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How is theism not an education thing? There is a truth. We have the means to find it.
If you think there is a personified and/or involved deity, I'm assuming you haven't really educated yourself. |
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Tue May 08, 2012 7:50 pm |
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mancabbage
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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what about if i think i am jesus? Ive always had this lingering suspicion |
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Tue May 08, 2012 7:54 pm |
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futuristxen
Joined: 01 Jul 2002
Posts: 19343
Location: Tighten Your Bible Belt |
Limbs wrote:
How is theism not an education thing? There is a truth. We have the means to find it.
If you think there is a personified and/or involved deity, I'm assuming you haven't really educated yourself.
Again. Theistic matters may not be your intellectual pursuit. Its like if you said you only listened to one type of music and because of that I concluded you know nothing about books. Your really reminding me of Christians with you zealous judgements based on such a minor issue.
For me sometimes I believe in God sometimes in gods sometimes in nothing mostly though I really do not care. And I think its silly to divide yourself from others over such a trivial matter |
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