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Plum Puddin'



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Post Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:48 pm
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anomaly
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ipods have gps devices in them? I know my iphone and ipad do and I've messed w/ the FindMyIcrap app and it works.

Maybe my ipod is just old and shitty.
Post Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:04 am
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yeah this is a good read.
Post Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:52 pm
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pedavis wrote:
hahaha ahhh... what?


Haha. Silly dystopic rants aside, the fact that GPS-location devices even exist (let alone are more & more frequently being used by law enforcement, legally or not) surprised & startled me. Surveillance is becoming increasingly invasive & commonplace - in direct proportion to the brazenness of law enforcement attempts to justify it.

This right here should make us all pretty uncomfortable:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/us/police-tracking-of-cellphones-raises-privacy-fears.html


Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
Published: March 31, 2012

WASHINGTON — Law enforcement tracking of cellphones, once the province mainly of federal agents, has become a powerful and widely used surveillance tool for local police officials, with hundreds of departments, large and small, often using it aggressively with little or no court oversight, documents show.

The practice has become big business for cellphone companies, too, with a handful of carriers marketing a catalog of “surveillance fees” to police departments to determine a suspect’s location, trace phone calls and texts or provide other services. Some departments log dozens of traces a month for both emergencies and routine investigations.

With cellphones ubiquitous, the police call phone tracing a valuable weapon in emergencies like child abductions and suicide calls and investigations in drug cases and murders. One police training manual describes cellphones as “the virtual biographer of our daily activities,” providing a hunting ground for learning contacts and travels.

But civil liberties advocates say the wider use of cell tracking raises legal and constitutional questions, particularly when the police act without judicial orders. While many departments require warrants to use phone tracking in nonemergencies, others claim broad discretion to get the records on their own, according to 5,500 pages of internal records obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union from 205 police departments nationwide.

The internal documents, which were provided to The New York Times, open a window into a cloak-and-dagger practice that police officials are wary about discussing publicly. While cell tracking by local police departments has received some limited public attention in the last few years, the A.C.L.U. documents show that the practice is in much wider use — with far looser safeguards — than officials have previously acknowledged...
Post Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:19 pm
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Dammit, what happened? Did you get it yet? Call the police, meet up with them with your tracker and go in together. Some fat dude will be listening to your bieber mix while taking a shit and get the surprise of his life when you and the law bust in on him.

What are you waiting for? Two days and I'd say he can keep it at this point...you wimped out, puss boy.
Post Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:41 pm
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Post Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:58 pm
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my wife was explaining to me today about how when you use icloud, the police don't need a warrant to read your emails or anything else stored on there.

kinda neat.
Post Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:17 pm
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i'm not a fan of the concept of clouds in the least bit. the fact you upload your stuff to a random server somewhere.....just seems not right
Post Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:53 am
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anomaly wrote:
i'm not a fan of the concept of clouds in the least bit. the fact you upload your stuff to a random server somewhere.....just seems not right


phone numbers aside what could you possibly have on your phone that you dont want others to see
Post Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:30 am
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My Kindle collection is synced so that if I open a book on my phone it remembers the exact location to where I was (down to the word really). Then if I open my iPad and read there it's automatically synced to the same spot. No more bookmarks.

Cloud computing offers features that regular client/server models can only dream of. Any cloud service that I have found so far gives you the ability to make local copies of whatever you're saving as well.

My company has had a bit of problems with Microsofts SQL Azure cloud service, but I think that's related to some shitty hardware they have at their datacenter more than anything.

I'm more concerned about police departments using my e911 service on my phone to track down my location without my consent, or a warrant, than storing my data on a server that I don't know the physical location of.
Post Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:33 am
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mortalthoughts wrote:
anomaly wrote:
i'm not a fan of the concept of clouds in the least bit. the fact you upload your stuff to a random server somewhere.....just seems not right


phone numbers aside what could you possibly have on your phone that you dont want others to see


email, pics, texts, calls, lat/long coordinates, etc.
Pretty much everything in my phone

and then there's the wiener pictures....the sheer number of wiener pictures.
Post Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:50 am
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does all that get backed up to the cloud on an iphone? i honestly dont know havent upgraded to the 4g one yet

i know pictures and music can didnt know about the rest
Post Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:31 am
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mortalthoughts wrote:
does all that get backed up to the cloud on an iphone? i honestly dont know havent upgraded to the 4g one yet

i know pictures and music can didnt know about the rest


iCloud backs up your:
Purchased music, TV shows, apps, and books
Photos and video in the Camera Roll
Device settings
App data
Home screen and app organization
Messages (iMessage, SMS, and MMS)
Ringtones

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/apps-books-backup.html



yeah, i just don't trust it
Post Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:55 am
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You do know you can choose what it backs up, right?
Post Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:23 pm
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JohnSchwan wrote:
You do know you can choose what it backs up, right?


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