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Sage Francis
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Forgot all about that. These days if it's not on youtube then I forget about it. Haha. Thanks for the reminder.
Post Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:47 pm
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Post Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:49 am
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Yeah. I think Laura was pregnant with Emmy and we were at that show... We were off to the side... It was hilarious.
Post Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:28 am
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erich wrote:
i think there's a difference between the traditional punk ethos of endangering your body as a form of release and going to shows specifically to injure other people. it's a tough line to draw, but i generally avoid involving myself in the latter. if i want to add misanthropy to injury, i'll do it in the privacy of my bedroom.


Ive been to a couple punk shows where I was in the pit, from what Ive seen usually people help out those whove fallen down or who have been injured. The atmosphere has always been great at punk shows and Ive never seen an actual fight at one but Ive only been to like three or four shows that had a pit.
Post Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:25 am
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PoetryBox wrote:
erich wrote:
i think there's a difference between the traditional punk ethos of endangering your body as a form of release and going to shows specifically to injure other people. it's a tough line to draw, but i generally avoid involving myself in the latter. if i want to add misanthropy to injury, i'll do it in the privacy of my bedroom.


Ive been to a couple punk shows where I was in the pit, from what Ive seen usually people help out those whove fallen down or who have been injured. The atmosphere has always been great at punk shows and Ive never seen an actual fight at one but Ive only been to like three or four shows that had a pit.


I had the misfortune of being dragged along to a "hardcore" show with a girl I was dating about 5 years ago in high school. Let me tell you, the atmosphere at those shows suck, especially in Boston where those lame ducks FSU go there with different sorts of weapons with the intentions to harm. Hardcore kids are lame and want prove they're toughXbadasses.
Post Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:55 am
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JohnSchwan wrote:
PoetryBox wrote:
erich wrote:
i think there's a difference between the traditional punk ethos of endangering your body as a form of release and going to shows specifically to injure other people. it's a tough line to draw, but i generally avoid involving myself in the latter. if i want to add misanthropy to injury, i'll do it in the privacy of my bedroom.

Ive been to a couple punk shows where I was in the pit, from what Ive seen usually people help out those whove fallen down or who have been injured. The atmosphere has always been great at punk shows and Ive never seen an actual fight at one but Ive only been to like three or four shows that had a pit.

I had the misfortune of being dragged along to a "hardcore" show with a girl I was dating about 5 years ago in high school. Let me tell you, the atmosphere at those shows suck, especially in Boston where those lame ducks FSU go there with different sorts of weapons with the intentions to harm. Hardcore kids are lame and want prove they're toughXbadasses.

Jesus, could these three posts have more stereotypes?
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the mean wrote:
JohnSchwan wrote:
PoetryBox wrote:
erich wrote:
i think there's a difference between the traditional punk ethos of endangering your body as a form of release and going to shows specifically to injure other people. it's a tough line to draw, but i generally avoid involving myself in the latter. if i want to add misanthropy to injury, i'll do it in the privacy of my bedroom.

Ive been to a couple punk shows where I was in the pit, from what Ive seen usually people help out those whove fallen down or who have been injured. The atmosphere has always been great at punk shows and Ive never seen an actual fight at one but Ive only been to like three or four shows that had a pit.

I had the misfortune of being dragged along to a "hardcore" show with a girl I was dating about 5 years ago in high school. Let me tell you, the atmosphere at those shows suck, especially in Boston where those lame ducks FSU go there with different sorts of weapons with the intentions to harm. Hardcore kids are lame and want prove they're toughXbadasses.

Jesus, could these three posts have more stereotypes?


Sometimes stereotypes work, or make good jokes. In my interactions with "hardcore" kids they have sought fights and quite often have hated rivalries within their music scene which is lame. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone who enjoys the music but it does apply to a large group of them. FSU members are lame ducks, and I'm sure there's a group of people you don't enjoy based on the majority of people involved. Maybe for you it's hipsters or tea partiers.
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i didn't stereotype anyone except maybe myself, which has more to do with you than me.
Post Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:10 pm
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How dare you guys have opinions on hardcore or punk shows based on your experiences at them? Until you've been to as many shows at the mean, just keep your mouths shut.

Show these posers the list.
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The first show I went to was a bunch of metalcore bands. That was an enlightening experience. Watching people get punched bloody and hug the person who punched them. powerful shit. People were knocking down ceiling tiles and pulling at the exposed wiring. Crazy energy
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and as far as henry rollins goes. I dont know. That girl in the original video had a fairly condescending tone to her voice with the "get in the van, man" thing. Her band is called Sexual Aids. Same with that little prick kid from the interview video with his shit eating grin and posturing stance. Some people can make you feel like shit with just a look while they smile and tell you how much they love you. Henry probably got a lot of those looks in high school
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Dude is ignorant as fuck....but wait, he is sooo cool.

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Post Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:41 pm
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Sage Francis
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It's astounding how much he says in that silly rant applies 100% to his own music.
Post Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:59 pm
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That remix was perfect.
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George Carlin called.. He said, "Stop biting my style, asshole. If you do... At least be funny."
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