Mac Lethal
the one with the back hair
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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I sell beats on myspace for cab money.
Seriously. I have an account in my bank that my myspace beats Paypal directly deposits into, and I use that to pay Newgene (our cab driver we frequent.)
I have a friend who has 4 DUIs, and another friend who has 7 (incarcerated for 11 years.)
Another friend of mine who never got a single DUI in his life, is in a wheelchair because he was involved in a drunk driving accident. He wasn't even driving. He was asleep in the passenger seat, and woke up after a 3 week long coma, to find his legs no longer work.
Driving drunk is beyond irresponsible.
That being said:
HOW ABOUT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES AND STOP TEXT MESSAGING WHILE YOU DRIVE.
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:35 pm |
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Confidential
Joined: 23 Jan 2004
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tommi teardrop wrote:
When you get a dui/dwi, your insurance rates go up and you have to pay a fine, usually $500 to $1000 to the county or city you were arrested in. In addition to that, you often have to pay for alcohol abuse classes or possibly an ankle bracelet that will detect further alcohol consumption. Those are around $12 per day.
You take away all the rinky dink drunk driving arrests, and you are taking millions away from local governments and insurance companies. It prevents very, very little. Perhaps tax breaks and grants for designated driving services/businesses would be better ways of eliminating deaths if that was actually the goal.
We also seem to forget about the whole addiction part of alcohol/drugs when we discuss dui's. Addicts are not going to quit drinking because of jail time and/or fines. They are addicts. They need alcohol to function. Throwing jail time and fines at the problem is not solving anything, at all.
But it sure does affirm how bad it all is. If only affirming how bad it is would get people to stop doing it.
i agree. DUI equals more business for cops, courts, dui school, MADD, the company that sells the interlock system, not to mention insurance companies. However as with everything else in the system, this does not fix the problem.
The logic behind this is to take a drunk driver, who is probably poor and likely an alcoholic make their life miserable through economic coercion, and that will teach them a lesson they will never forget.
In Eureka CA MADD has a deal with the court where you can pay 20 to attend a MADD survivor speak out and get 100 reduced from your fine. There is a way to do this without criminalizing and demonizing drunk drivers and pushing toward the harshest, yet most useless penalties, which if you look on their website, can see that is what they are committed to doing. |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:36 pm |
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AdamBomb
Joined: 05 Mar 2004
Posts: 3136
Location: Louisiana |
Confidential wrote:
The logic behind this is to take a drunk driver, who is probably poor and likely an alcoholic make their life miserable through economic coercion, and that will teach them a lesson they will never forget.
I don't really agree with this. I've seen the behavior across all social lines and age groups. |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:27 pm |
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Travadone
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 2977
Location: LI(f)E SUCKS (The Album) |
Mac Lethal 2007 wrote:
I sell beats on myspace for cab money.
Seriously. I have an account in my bank that my myspace beats Paypal directly deposits into, and I use that to pay Newgene (our cab driver we frequent.)
I have a friend who has 4 DUIs, and another friend who has 7 (incarcerated for 11 years.)
Another friend of mine who never got a single DUI in his life, is in a wheelchair because he was involved in a drunk driving accident. He wasn't even driving. He was asleep in the passenger seat, and woke up after a 3 week long coma, to find his legs no longer work.
Driving drunk is beyond irresponsible.
That being said:
HOW ABOUT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES AND STOP TEXT MESSAGING WHILE YOU DRIVE.
Then talk about irresponsible driving.
guy u fucking had a dui, what the fuck are you talking about. |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:34 pm |
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remind
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
Posts: 2168
Location: NJ |
Travadone wrote:
any of you that have gotten behind the wheel drunk need your ass beat.
no excuse for that shit.
I could probably use a good ass-beating. With that said, any of you who have harassed other forum members on here with racist and sexist remarks over and over need YOUR ass beat.
Can we stop upping this thread, please? |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:46 pm |
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AdamBomb
Joined: 05 Mar 2004
Posts: 3136
Location: Louisiana |
When I see people text-and-drive, it sends me into road rage (causing me to accidentally spill my beer).
My little sister, admitted most of her high school friends do this regularly when she is riding in their car. Shit is scary (and middle-aged folks are doing this now, too).
Side note: seen a weird trend of middle-aged dudes with the ipods/earbuds going when they are driving (who also seem oblivious to their surroundings). |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:19 pm |
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Sage Francis
Self Fighteous
Joined: 30 Jun 2002
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I can't get down with the texting-and-driving hate.
I just can't.
We drive, our eyes dart around...we look at the radio...we look at the spedometer...we look at the rear view mirror to blow kisses to ourselves. And we glance down at the phone from time to time to make sure the last couple sentences we wrote weren't totally incoherent.
Some people can't chew gum and walk. Some people can't text and drive. But I text and drive from coast to coast on a yearly basis. If I ever get in an accident and I have a phone in my hand while it happens, that's just because I always have a phone in my hand. Just so ya know. |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:27 pm |
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dilly dilly
Joined: 08 Mar 2007
Posts: 848
Location: maine |
A friend of mine was killed two months ago because her bff tried to drive them home drunk.
He lived.
He was driving over 100mph and wrapped them around a tree.
He had four beers.
RIP rae :'( |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:37 pm |
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mortalthoughts
LAME KID
Joined: 12 Dec 2002
Posts: 11602
Location: MI |
AdamBomb wrote:
Confidential wrote:
The logic behind this is to take a drunk driver, who is probably poor and likely an alcoholic make their life miserable through economic coercion, and that will teach them a lesson they will never forget.
I don't really agree with this. I've seen the behavior across all social lines and age groups.
thats like saying all urban living poor people are crackheads or something
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:41 pm |
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PHIL LACIO AKA P DAWG
the godfather of troll
Joined: 18 Oct 2002
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My brother worked with a guy who's daughter got killed driving while texting she swerved head on into a Semi and it was lights out, she was 16. |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:41 pm |
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Sam C
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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phataccino wrote:
There was a lady in my town who was found passed out at the wheel of her vehicle after it went off the road and into a snow bank. When they got her to the hospital and did a blood test for her BAC, it was .72. She was comatose in the hospital for three days before finally waking up. The .72 was the highest BAC ever in the county, and the highest non-fatal BAC on record in the state. According to a couple of doctors that I talked to about it, there was basically no way that she should have been alive. I don't even understand how someone that drunk could even get in a car, start it, and drive any distance at all. Crazy.
That has to be one of the crazier things I have read. There's no way she should be alive. |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:47 pm |
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AdamBomb
Joined: 05 Mar 2004
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Location: Louisiana |
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Sage Francis wrote:
I can't get down with the texting-and-driving hate.
I just can't.
We drive, our eyes dart around...we look at the radio...we look at the spedometer...we look at the rear view mirror to blow kisses to ourselves. And we glance down at the phone from time to time to make sure the last couple sentences we wrote weren't totally incoherent.
Some people can't chew gum and walk. Some people can't text and drive. But I text and drive from coast to coast on a yearly basis. If I ever get in an accident and I have a phone in my hand while it happens, that's just because I always have a phone in my hand. Just so ya know.
I guess if you can do it responsibly, more power to you. I personally can't do it (unless it was maybe an open long highway during a clear day), but I've just had too many serious close calls with people doing it. Just a couple of weeks ago, when i was riding my bike, I almost got killed just riding through a neighborhood street. Plenty of other close calls just driving in my vehicle. Its hard enough dodging people who are bad drivers as it is.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/01/train.crash.probe/ |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:49 pm |
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adic
Joined: 07 May 2009
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Location: SJC |
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Sage Francis wrote:
I can't get down with the texting-and-driving hate.
I just can't.
We drive, our eyes dart around...we look at the radio...we look at the spedometer...we look at the rear view mirror to blow kisses to ourselves. And we glance down at the phone from time to time to make sure the last couple sentences we wrote weren't totally incoherent.
Some people can't chew gum and walk. Some people can't text and drive. But I text and drive from coast to coast on a yearly basis. If I ever get in an accident and I have a phone in my hand while it happens, that's just because I always have a phone in my hand. Just so ya know.
Fuck that, I say we start pulling over anyone we see driving at night with their phone in their hand that happens to cross over the double yellow. Then we charge them 5k in fines and revoke their cell phone privledges for a year, and send them to a class on excessive cell phone use, even if it's the fist time they've used the phone for a couple weeks. Eventually we can get the word out how much this will improve the safety of the public and start making money... There you go, stimulus package... |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:52 pm |
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Confidential
Joined: 23 Jan 2004
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AdamBomb wrote:
Confidential wrote:
The logic behind this is to take a drunk driver, who is probably poor and likely an alcoholic make their life miserable through economic coercion, and that will teach them a lesson they will never forget.
I don't really agree with this. I've seen the behavior across all social lines and age groups.
That was poorly worded. A first time DUI is easier to go through if you are wealthy. if you are poor, it can ruin your life for a long time to come, probably cause a lot of frustration and feelings of constant worry and helplessness about the future and trigger the urge to drink. This has been my experience. |
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:03 pm |
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tommi teardrop
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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So there are some people that are just shitty drivers all the time. And some drivers are shitty when they've been drinking. And some drivers are terrible in the rain. And some are terrible while they are texting or talking on the phone. Some people are driving without their glasses or contacts. And most people only take the eye test every five years. And some old people have really bad reflexes. And some people just drive too fast or carelessly.
And people die and suffer chronic injuries because of all these things. Where I work, I personally work on 90 cases of people being severely injured/killed in car accidents. Only a few of them are DUI defendants. Anecdotal, I know.
Driving around in big metal objects at high speeds in these mazes we call roads results in deaths. Doing anything to makes that result a greater possibility is a bad idea. But alcohol is the only one that we ridicule and punish people with to that degree.
And yes, alcohol plays a big enough part in adding to driving deaths that maybe it should be picked out to a certain point.
I think some of us just disagree with the degree to which it is stigmatized in comparison to all of the other ways you can add to the possibility of others dying in an accident. I don't know that a guy who is pulled over with a broken taillight, but is otherwise driving fine and hasn't hurt or threatened anyone should be taken to jail, fined $1,000 and be treated like a murderous addict. Just so that sheriffs and politicians can market themselves as tough on DUIs. |
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