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Lants



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i mean - the picture is frat boy like humor.
but the text actually suggests in a way that eating this burger is similar to eating a cock. i don't think the cliched frat boy eats cock?
Post Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:03 pm
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mancabbage



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if that was a mans face it woulda been funny right? and probably a better ad
Post Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:21 pm
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mizterie



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Lants wrote:
i mean - the picture is frat boy like humor.
but the text actually suggests in a way that eating this burger is similar to eating a cock. i don't think the cliched frat boy eats cock?

no, he does. he just lies about it the morning after.
Post Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:27 pm
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Buddy Peace



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I remember a thread on here along of the lines of "McDonalds wants you to fuck their sandwich!" where on the ad, there was a guy with his hand on his chin contemplating a though-bubbled McDonalds sandwich, thinking "I'd hit that".

I think the most knowing meat ad over here in the UK was for Peperami, the long thin piece of hard meat constructed from unnamed random meats. The strapline goes "It's a bit of an animal" - several bits, granted, but it's one of the only ads I remember which seems a bit more self aware than most. The product itself is disgusting - I ate them here and there as a kid but never no more... They even come in small prophylactics.

We definitely don't get ads celebrating the phallic nature of sausages though... I don't even think they'd get past censors over here to be honest!
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:14 am
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True School Session



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Bring that Beat Back wrote:
It never stopped me from gettin' busy. I'm a freak....


I once got busy in a burger king bathroom.
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:30 am
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Charlie Foxtrot



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True School Session wrote:
Bring that Beat Back wrote:
It never stopped me from gettin' busy. I'm a freak....


I once got busy in a burger king bathroom.


Are you sure it wasn't a drive-thru?
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:47 am
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futuristxen



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Wow. I don't like burger king, but a 7 inch burger would be really awesome.
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:18 am
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firefly



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T-Wrex wrote:
benjy compson wrote:
phallocentrism needs to die.
advertising needs to be more risque.


Risque? Gimme a break.

The only thing that advertising needs is honesty and ethics. Exploitation, manipulation and deceit should have no place in advertising.

This is not a freedom of speech issue here.
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:03 am
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mancabbage



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firefly wrote:

The only thing that advertising needs is honesty and ethics. Exploitation, manipulation and deceit should have no place in advertising.



lol
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:15 am
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firefly



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I advertise for my business with honesty and ethics. SFR advertises for their business the same way.

I don't see why that statement made you lol.
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:27 am
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futuristxen



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All advertising is in some manner about trickery. It's about creating a need or desire where there previously had not been. Usually for the benefit of the person who has made the advertisement.

Even the most honest and ethical of advertising is about greed. Both creating it and trying to satiate it.

I admire the awesome talent that goes into a lot of advertising. But also kind of wonder what it would be like if that talent were let loose for more straight artistic goals that were aimed at raising the overall consciousness of both the ones creating the ads, and the ones viewing the ads.

I say that as someone who has friends who work in advertising and marketing.
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:02 am
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Brynjar



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Is this really worth talking about?
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:03 am
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futuristxen



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On the other hand, because of all of that, advertising is an artform. And in that vein, it's possible to look at a piece of advertisement without respect to it's ethics or honesty, and appreciate it in an objective level as a work of art, and to that extent, I agree with T-Wrex that advertising should be more risque and take more chances. It might as well, if I'm going to have to look at it.
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:05 am
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firefly



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futuristxen wrote:
All advertising is in some manner about trickery. It's about creating a need or desire where there previously had not been.


Ummm ... no. That's what they teach you in marketing class but that's a bunch of bullshit. A LOT of marketing is about creating a need, crisis, etc but not all. It doesn't have to be deceitful at all.

Basically what you're saying is that if a store owner puts up a sign that says "Tom's used book store" that he is tricking people when in fact that is just a very basic form of honest advertising.

Ethics by the way is something almost always left out of marketing class. The only time we talked about ethics in my class was about using it to improve your brand image. Fuck that shit.
Post Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:21 am
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