poisonfree
Joined: 23 Aug 2002
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Location: Macramento |
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I need some advice.
My Highschool friend, Former Coworker of 3 years, and roomate of 5 years has had some craziness happen over the past 5 years.
When we lived together in 2002 he got an amazing state job as a financial reviewer for CA cities, his mother hooked him up. After 1.5-2yrs of working there his mother passed away... it was sudden and unexpected and was totally a mystery. She was just passed out on the couch in her home. They didn't want to do an autopsy or anything, it was too much for everyone.
She left my friend a lot of money, and her house.
She lived with a boyfriend of like 16 years, he was pretty much my friends step-dad. Real cool guy, totally depressed, he was now living in the house alone, sad, and distraught. My friend still lived with me, and was just letting his step-dad live there.
The dad-guy stayed in the house for about 7 months, but he couldn't handle it, and he told my friend he had to leave, it was too painful. so he moved out, and the house was empty. I told my roommate it made no sense for him to pay rent at our place when he had a free empty house, and I totally understood if he wanted to stay, but I was just letting him know I wouldn't mind or be hurt if he wanted to leave.
That was all we ever talked about her passing, I asked him if he was alright, and he just would reply "yeah I'm cool." He totally internalized everything. Eventually he started to drink a little, then he progressed to a little more, eventually he met a woman at the bar who he started dating.
he eventually realized saving 500$ a month was a good idea, and moved out. Then he started telling us all that he was in love with this woman. She was a Single mother, 3 kids by 3 different men. Alcoholic, no job, and just manipulated people for money etc. He opened up to her, i assume she was able to get him to talk about his mother, and she instantly became his only family. She convinced him to quit his job, and to let her move into the house with her kids. It was horrible, for the last 5 years they have spent every day in a bar, between 5-10hrs, dragging the poor kids to play in the parking lot, or in the bowling alley while they get drunk all night.
I'm talking they'd be drunk, fighting in the parking lot, pulling each other pants down, wrestling around. (he isn't violent, they'd just be doing stuff that should be left for the bedroom) with a sprinkle of belligerent arguing, all while the kids would be crying, begging for them to stop.
This happened at least 5 days a week, if not all 7.
She eventually convinced him that his "New Family" needed a Lincoln Navigator for the kids. and then she convinced him she needed her own car as well.
We tried to talk to him, she canceled all of his cell phone, and internet etc.
and when we'd go to his house shed open the door a crack and say "He doesn't want to talk to you" at which point we could hear him in the background asking "Who's that? that sounded like ______"
It's been crappy, all of us, his friends have just watched him deteriorate by her hand. They eventually went through all of the money his mother had left him, couldn't pay for the cars, mortgaged the house, and eventually lost the house.
After that they lived in motels in West sac, he started driving a cab while she sat at the hotel getting drunk. Eventually (about 2 months ago) he caught her cheating on him, so he left her (thank Jehovah)
He is now living with a friend, and our high school buddy got him a job back at the bowling alley (Where we worked when we were 16)
Now here is the kicker....
This She-beast was on Opera yesterday, if you google "Favor Whitesides" you can find 33 news articles about her, she reported to lisa ling a whole bagful of lies and BS, claiming he left her to live with friends and that the kids are his, and that the mortgage crisis is why she is homeless.
http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20090218_tows_lisa-ling-recession/2
I am not a vengeful person but damn, I feel like I need to send an email or something..........Oprah better not give her a free house or some shit!
ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Mzhe916 send that Link to Bad Bart. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:02 am |
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Sage Francis
Self Fighteous
Joined: 30 Jun 2002
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Sounds like your friend is living with my sister.
You have my sincerest condolences. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:12 am |
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futuristxen
Joined: 01 Jul 2002
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Location: Tighten Your Bible Belt |
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What do you want to do to her? I mean she's already homeless with three kids. And according to you, also with substance abuse issues.
I think there's nothing to really be done with her. You don't have a relationship with her. So you should just block her out.
You need to deal with your friend, who hasn't been making the best choices by your judgement since his mom's death. Be there to support him. I'm sure he is feeling horrible. I would just focus your energies there.
As for dealing with an actual succubus, probably some sort of combination of a banishing ritual, and then some kind of blessing for the premises after you drive the succubus out.
I don't think succubus's just show up though out of the blue, they usually have to be invited in in some way. There's some kind of opening there for them to crawl in. Some sort of desire for that degredation and losing of life force. And that's the main issue to deal with. What gap in your friend's hustle was making him want to do that with his life? If you don't answer that question, in terms of getting him to open up about it to you guys, it's only a matter of time before he's back in the same situation, but worse. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:17 am |
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poisonfree
Joined: 23 Aug 2002
Posts: 1417
Location: Macramento |
yeah for sure, I haven't seen him since he escaped, I'm hoping to hangout with him this weekend. I don't want to do anything to anyone, it just perturbs me that she 1)used my friend, 2) Makes my friend look like some deadbeat dad when the kids aren't his 3)using this housing crisis as a sob story, something that actually has effected so many.
Shit's just sad, frustrating, stressful, depressing.
blargggggg
EDIT: she is on every news network, and on every news networks website.
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Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:21 am |
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True School Session
Joined: 10 May 2006
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at least your fiend isn't mentioned by name, and having his rep dragged through the mud as a dead beat dad or some shit.
I'm just trying to find you a bright spot. Be there for your friend and help him get on his feet...karma will catch up with her.....or unfortunately...her kids. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:28 am |
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neveragainlikesheep
Joined: 22 May 2008
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Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:16 am |
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jakethesnake
guy who cried about wrestling being real
Joined: 03 Feb 2006
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Location: airstrip one |
Seduce is one of the easiest spells to break, pretty much any damage on the Succubus will break the spell. Just don't let her get you out of stealth. If you see a lock with "no pet" you can safely assume she's there.
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Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:13 am |
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redball
Joined: 12 May 2006
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It sounds like they're both equally at fault. Though she probably held him hostage using the kids any time he realized that he'd put himself into a bad situation.
Did you ever think that he didn't want the money or the house? He wanted to get rid of it. To him, it may have been a lame trade off for his mother, and he just wanted her back. So he sinks into depression and booze.
Then he meets this woman. "Hey, I can make her happy with this money and house I don't really want," he thinks. Making her happy makes him happy, and suddenly it all matters again.
He's in a downward spiral, though. Alcoholic who paired with another. You don't even know if they were doing other shit. Then gravity catches him and he realizes that he can't float through life. Only, by now he's caught up with this woman and what the hell is he going to do to get rid of her? He can't throw her and her kids out on the street. He feels guilty because he thought he loved her and that it all mattered.
Meanwhile, he's still addicted to making her happy. So he keeps giving her what she wants. Why not? He's got all that money, right.
Oops! One day he realizes that it will soon be gone. By now all he has is drinking, fighting, and her in control. He doesn't know how to handle himself or get out from under it. Fuck it! Just keep drinking. Soon enough it's gone.
In that scenario she is the enabler, but she isn't the problem. His desires, addictions, and weaknesses are the problem. Those are all issues that neither you nor your friends could fix, only he could. Making it through that door wouldn't have helped him out the seemingly insurmountable tide that was dragging him away.
This woman will find another man and do the same thing. It's what she knows. It'll still be his fault, though. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:32 am |
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C.R.A.Z.Y
Joined: 18 Feb 2008
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Location: windchestertonfieldville, iowa |
damn. it's waaaay to late to ask for advice to " help " your friend. i'm confused, is her tv appearances the only thing that has caused you to write about it here on SFF?
it's a done deal. there's nothing you can do but be nice to him and just help him out if he needs it and keep a positive attitude around him. i wouldnt actually like try to approach him about it too much, wether it went well or not, it's his family business and he is grown. aside from just letting him know you got his back and shit, or offering resources if ya got em, i would leave it alone. just be a good friend like you would to anyone in your life experiencing hard times.
good news is: he's alive and it's all behind him. it's life. shit like this happens. the important thing is to not dwell in the past.
besides, what did you do the whole time he actually was having troubles? i'm just confused as to why you seem to want to seek help after the fact? what do you hope to achieve? |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:05 am |
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mancabbage
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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Location: london |
On the plus side, you get free bowling now ? |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:10 am |
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firefly
Joined: 27 Sep 2002
Posts: 3688
Location: Montreal |
That's too bad about your friend man. I hate the succubuses.
I don't really blame the guy so much for being taken advantage of. He was vulnerable and she used him (and not even in a way that would be good for her kids, she just blew all his money on shit).
I think you should write the news stations and give your side of the story. I don't think it's a matter or "not being your business" as there is a person on television lying to take advantage of a bad situation. She should be called out on this. Whether your friend gives a shit or not, this is an issue of Truth and now she's trying to con the whole nation. Don't do it if you think it'll ruin your friendship with the guy though. Or do it anyways, it's up to you. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:25 am |
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mzehe916
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
Posts: 4181
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I was out with Taylor and Whitesides two weekends ago. Dude seemed like he was getting slightly better, although he was still drinking. This is crazy. I am hoping that you are following her campaign setting the story straight. I just sent that link to him.
I can't believe the mess he is in. The thing that sucks for him is that I think he is truly emotionally attached to the kids, which is why he yo-yo's back to her. But you know more than I do. Good luck to him. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:19 am |
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poisonfree
Joined: 23 Aug 2002
Posts: 1417
Location: Macramento |
we all tried to help him, even just talk to him, for years, but honestly we could never even get a hold of him.
last year his best friend had a birthday party and we all tried to get ahold of him to come, eventually the entire party marched to his house, and even broke into it LOL.
but it was abandoned.
bahh, i know it's his fault, but like with most people he must have not been at that rock-bottom-point to ask for help. now He is, and I am at least a little relieved.
I'm mostly bummed because he is really a nice guy and much of what you are all saying is true, and i just hope he doesn't get back with her. As a friend I have the right to be upset when people wrong my friends and my family.
If some dooshbag was dating my mum, regardless of if "she was at fault" It should still be ok for me to be upset about it. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:23 am |
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redball
Joined: 12 May 2006
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Location: Northern New Jersey |
I never said you can't be upset. I just think you should focus on the reality of the situation instead of just being pissed off and blaming the girl. Be glad that it's over and move on. Help your friend now. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:30 am |
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Dj Mayonnaise
Joined: 07 May 2004
Posts: 741
Location: Jon Voight's Ballsack |
Is your friend young? I'd hope his freeloader alarm would've been going off. I guess he could've been distracted by his mother's passing. Either that or there's 0-1 (insert race) trash women in your city and he was unaware of her super powers. |
Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:36 am |
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