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theprophet1986



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ron paul is scary
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:50 pm
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bigsole
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senator byrd is the man. one of the best senators. his oratories against the war are perhaps the best thing to come out of congress before the invasion.

i tend to like the idea of right wing militias and anti globalist conspiracies, because there is a lot of truth in all that paranoia, garbled in with a lot of bullshit. alex jones says semi racist shit all the time, thats just the way them good ole texas boys roll. i've heard those ideas about "welfare queens" , "mexican immigrants as new world order stooges" , "everyone is a mossad agent," articulated... sometimes i can see the perspective, othertimes it strikes me as ignorant/racist, but it usually just makes me laugh. even the stuff about the south. there is something to that. abraham lincoln didnt want to free the slaves, he used them as an excuse to solidify the federal states power over the confederate states.

not every thing is so black and white that you can dismiss someone after one muckracking column. although, some of the stuff printed in ron pauls newsletter is despicable, even if it was printed out of context. the main thing that still irks me about ron paul, is that i think he is one of the only candidates that would ban abortion. i dont think he is a racist, he is a nationalist, but he surely has some racist supportors, and his newletter got some biggot shit in it for sure...
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:56 pm
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Lusid
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I can relate to Sole's post. There are a lot of arguements but nobody wants to sound like a racist while trying to defend someone that appears to be a racist.

After my son goes to bed I'll read this and kind of sort out what I think.
Obviously there's a lot that can't be justified by anyone other than Paul himself, nor am I willing to try to be his spokesmen.
But to be fair and balanced! I'll take a swing at it because I do think there's both ignorant and philosophical value to all of this.
If nothing else it will bring a heated flame war that we can all get pissed about!
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:00 pm
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Dan Shay



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bigsole wrote:


not every thing is so black and white that you can dismiss someone after one muckracking column. although, some of the stuff printed in ron pauls newsletter is despicable, even if it was printed out of context. the main thing that still irks me about ron paul, is that i think he is one of the only candidates that would ban abortion. i dont think he is a racist, he is a nationalist, but he surely has some racist supportors, and his newletter got some biggot shit in it for sure...


Saying those quotes were taken out of context was Ron Paul's public relations response to the articles.

Decide for yourself, I posted the entire article here:

http://www.strangefamousrecords.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41507&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

His publication was produced for years, there were approx 7,000 subscribers, and so far, this is the only one that surfaced.

I too think the militia endangered white boy crowd is cute to some degree, but sometimes one of them gets delusional and charismatic and they grow teeth so I try not to encourage that behavior.

It was a major movement here a ways back but after Ruby Ridge/Waco/Oklahoma City most of them either disbanded or moved out to Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and Utah.
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:07 pm
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shambhala wrote:
That didn't address anything in the article, at all. Dude published a newsletter called "The Ron Paul Report" for twenty years with verifiably racist and homophobic views. Game over.


you're an idiot. game over.
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:08 pm
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breakreep
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ibuprofen wrote:
shambhala wrote:
That didn't address anything in the article, at all. Dude published a newsletter called "The Ron Paul Report" for twenty years with verifiably racist and homophobic views. Game over.


you're an idiot. game over.


Dude. No he's not. He's shambhala. Game over.
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:57 pm
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icarus502
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breakreep wrote:
ibuprofen wrote:
shambhala wrote:
That didn't address anything in the article, at all. Dude published a newsletter called "The Ron Paul Report" for twenty years with verifiably racist and homophobic views. Game over.


you're an idiot. game over.


Dude. No he's not. He's shambhala. Game over.


Seriously, dude's been consistently one of the best, well-written dudes around here for years. Most certainly not an idiot.
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the mean wrote:
I'm not sure what scares me more, if tons of people go to bat for this guy and didn't know this stuff, or if they know this and choose to ignore it.


This is the response this got after I posted it on Joe Rogan's Forum:

http://forums.joerogan.net/showthread.php?t=66035


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regardless, he's still the best candidate. he has just been more open with his true beliefs, everyone else is secretive
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:08 pm
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breakreep
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some asshole wrote:


regardless, he's still the best candidate. he has just been more open with his true beliefs, everyone else is secretive


He said what we were all thinking.
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:15 pm
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Ron Paul could set an orphanage on fire using kittens soaked in gasoline and he's still getting my vote, long-ass probably false article be damned.
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:19 pm
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breakreep
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Hey now you're just twisting his words. That isn't fair.

Besides. All opinions are equally valid and deserve the same respect.
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:23 pm
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firefly



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I didn't see anything wrong with what he supposedly said.

People can like it or not, but those statements are truthful.
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:24 pm
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firefly



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breakreep wrote:
Hey now you're just twisting his words. That isn't fair.

Besides. All opinions are equally valid and deserve the same respect.


These are actual quotes.

It seems like RP DOES have some racist supporters. Which is the point I'm trying to make.
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:26 pm
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breakreep
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I sincerely hope you're quoting from a diseparate article!

Besides, I could care less what you think.
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:26 pm
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Lusid
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I don't know, I read every last thing I could find about all of this a few days ago and didn't see a majority of what's being quoted in this article.
So either someone just dug up a bunch of fresh shit or it's questionable at best.
There is some extreme view points being quoted though.
If they are truely from Paul then the man needs to be lynched.
I'm investigating!
(and still reading the article)
Post Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:27 pm
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