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anomaly
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Raz B got facefucked w a bottle in China, now on life support and you're thinking about Eminem's reaction to a diss verse?

What kind of person are you? B2K, son.
Post Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:05 am
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In my mind Eminem hasn't been relevant in rap since Eight Mile, and even then it was for all the wrong reasons. I loved the shit out of the Slim Shady LP when it first came out, rapping it in between bagging groceries and shit. I also loved the Marshall Mathers LP, which I felt was a more mature, though still off-kilter, follow-up. And then I delved heavily into independent hip hop, and I never looked back. I have of course heard a few tracks from Eminem since then, but I've never felt compelled to check out any of his work. In my mind, he's done. I can't bring myself to even listen to him now, especially after he appears to be taking a page out of the screamo book.
Post Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:48 am
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I've never understood why so many hiphop fans say a rapper isn't relevant, not them but to everybody, when they don't like them.
Post Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:49 am
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Because Eminem hasn't contributed anything musically relevant since his second album, aside from a handful of tracks. He's just become stale.
Post Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:21 pm
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Limbs



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I hate it more when people confuse money for relevancy.
Post Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:42 pm
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Brynjar



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Captiv8 wrote:
Because Eminem hasn't contributed anything musically relevant since his second album, aside from a handful of tracks. He's just become stale.


That's what I mean, how do you measure "anything musically relevant"
Also if you think he's become stale I think it's clear you haven't listen to his last 3-4 albums, they sound nothing alike, he didn't even have the standard Slim Shady joke song on his last album.
Post Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:54 pm
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Whether you like him or not, Em's still clearly one of the best rappers out there...he just struggles to make good songs (which he's always kind of struggled at)
Post Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:56 pm
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Captiv8



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Brynjar wrote:
Captiv8 wrote:
Because Eminem hasn't contributed anything musically relevant since his second album, aside from a handful of tracks. He's just become stale.


That's what I mean, how do you measure "anything musically relevant"
Also if you think he's become stale I think it's clear you haven't listen to his last 3-4 albums, they sound nothing alike, he didn't even have the standard Slim Shady joke song on his last album.


Do we all live in a pretend world where the parameters of judgement don't apply? By my own standards, and by the level of buzz I here about Eminem, his relevance has continued to fade since Eight Mile. When he first came on the scene, it was like "Whoa, he's white and Dr. Dre loves him, and he raps about abuse drugs and other weirdo shit." It was all quite novel. But that schtick has fade over time, and the buzz and excitement has faded. Part of that is time, part of that is the difficulty in sustaining music creativity in a way that keeps people interested. Buzz and excitement about an artist and their contribution to music is their relevance. So those are my measures.

And, for the record, I'm not challenging Eminem's skill as a rapper. I think he has a lot of talent, but I also think he hasn't utilized said talent in the most engaging of ways of late.
Post Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:35 am
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Limbs



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Eminem can say words strung together in a rappy way. That doesn't make him a good rapper. Eminem is not a good rapper. He's a rapper with money. He was never the best rapper. He was the best songwriter for teenagers for awhile. Now he's only kinda good at that. Talent is trivial and I don't think he even has much of that. He works really really hard at being a rapper.

I don't hate Eminem. I just lost my empathy for him. Like I've done with lost cause family members.
Post Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:55 am
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T-Wrex
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Limbs wrote:
Eminem is not a good rapper.


You went there.
Post Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:52 pm
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T-Wrex
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Who outshined who on this track?..



And.. Who outshined who on this track?...
Post Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:06 pm
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Neuro
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the anthem track was when eminem was in his "prime", thats not a new track
Post Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:08 pm
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T-Wrex
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no shit, shurlock.
but KRS was the best... in 1999.

respect your elders.
Post Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:18 pm
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poopsnack



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Em is still one of the best. You can not like him all you want - but notice that those with a name don't want it with him. Up and coming scrubs might want to start shit just to earn a rep(him just replying will give them shine) but established rappers know not to fuck with him. He is still sharp.
Here is the game talking about it -



check this -


and this
Post Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:13 pm
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Limbs



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Yep. He's one of the richest.
Post Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:39 pm
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