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phataccino



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Sarcastro wrote:
Plum Puddin' wrote:
Because they are kids.

Maybe i'm naive but has a 'terrorist' tried to get harmful materials on board a flight using a little kid yet?



Kids do need to get patted down, and so do handicapped people, and the elderly and everyone else.

I hate when people put up pictures like the one with the kid and cry "inhuman TSA, they're just trying to get on the plane"
Who do you want them to check? Do you want them to only pat down brown men that look like terrorists?
of course not or else you'd have the same people going "inhuman TSA, not every brown person is a terrorist"

If you're doing pat downs, pat down indiscriminately.

I agree with this. But then, if some TSA agent was trying to pat down my daughter I'd probably lose my shit.
Post Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:33 pm
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As long as there are no health problems associated with the full body scan I don't know why we wouldn't move permanently towards that.




BTW, sorry to get off track. That video was really eye opening for someone who doesn't live in NY. I think there was someone on this board that once said they could never be a police officer because for them to be a good person they would be a bad police officer because to succeed in that line of work you HAVE to do things that are against your principles.
Post Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:52 pm
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I think this vid was really well done. Will definitely forward it.
Post Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:52 pm
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futuristxen



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I find the process behind getting on a plane to be both humiliating and mortifying.

As for whether kids should get patted down--serious? Of course they should. Terrorists use kids all of the time. They have child suicide bombers. I mean it's pretty easy to strap something to a dumb kid, and after brainwashing, get them to do pretty much anything you tell them to.
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Nah they're too unreliable though. Little kids can't do shits.

They get all suspicious when they're trying to be sneaky. Plus they have low discipline.
Have you ever tried to get a kid to keep a secret? Or walk a mile without complaining that they're tiiiired.
Post Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:20 pm
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Plum Puddin'



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People keep mentioning these kid terrorists.

I must have missed this new wave of attempted attacks.
Post Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:57 pm
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Depends on the kind of kid. Depends on the culture the kid is raised in.
Depends if the kid knows whether he's part of a secret or not.
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Plum Puddin' wrote:
People keep mentioning these kid terrorists.

I must have missed this new wave of attempted attacks.


http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/15/10411931-us-general-taliban-use-of-child-suicide-bombers-utterly-despicable?lite

More if you google.

Though this link certainly supports Raoul's point that kids are dumb fuck ups.
Post Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:00 pm
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Plum Puddin'



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Sorry, i should have worded that better.

Attempted attacks on U.S soil by terrorist kids.

You know, to warrant the fear we have of children getting on planes.
Post Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:16 pm
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Sarcastro



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But you do realize that if they had a policy, even if unwritten, that children shouldn't be searched then children would become the primary way of sneaking things in right?
Post Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:37 am
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Captiv8



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C'mon, Plum. You're the forum image monger. I shouldn't be finding these before you.





And just so we're not limiting ourselves to folks from the Middle East:



Sure, it looks fake. But is it?
Post Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:23 am
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Plum Puddin'



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A google image search? Thanks!

Where is this systematic use of children as weapons?

A few fucktards in the middle east dress their kids up as bombers for some dumb rally so that means we treat every child as a suspect?

That seems reasonable.

When you're in airports going through security & there's a toddler getting a pat down, do you feel a wave of relief & safety, or does something in you say 'this is fucked up?'..
Post Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:47 pm
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I feel like its fucked up regardless. I don't get how children are somehow beyond the pale for you.
Post Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:22 pm
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Captiv8



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That has nothing to do with it. If there is a policy against searching kids then that's the main avenue to exploit. It's that simple. And personally, I'm more worried about the crazy white militia types more than anyone else.
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Plum Puddin'



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Coz i ain't 'fraid of no ghost.



The actual odds of dying from terrorism are so frigging small that our obsession with it seems almost psychotic.
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