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FUCK THAT.


Anon has already got his full documents.
Post Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:49 pm
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I can't lie and say that my gut reaction to this isn't "fuck that dude, he's a fucking scumbag and deserves to rot in jail". But I don't think that's a very healthy attitude towards this situation. The daughter, the one who actually suffered the abuse, is asking to get help for her father, not for anon or 4chan to harass him constantly for a few days.

This reminds me of illdoctrine's "How To Tell People They Sound Racist" video (embedded below for those who haven't seen it before). It may feel like the best course of action here is to just bum rush the dude with internet harassment and keep accusing him of being a child abuser (which he is), but that may not actually fix this particular situation. You can't show him that he's a child abuser unless you show him how this particular action was child abuse. If a bunch of people just start harassing him and name-calling, without trying to talk about how what he did in the video was wrong, he's just going to go into defense mode and go further into rationalizing his own behavior. What would be nice is if the conversation focused on this one particular act, and mainly concerned itself with how what he did in this video constitutes child abuse.

Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:30 am
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Here is the judge's fucked up statement -
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/11/03/judge.adams.statement.pdf?hpt=hp_c1

My name is William A. Dudley. The statement which
follows has been reviewed and approved for circulation by
Judge William Adams.
The seven year old video presently circulating the
internet and now made the basis of international media
attention, showing two parents disciplining their 16 year
old daughter, who had been caught, by her own televised and
internet reported admissions, engaged in repeated criminal
activity, was posted for reasons other than as professed by
the publisher.
It is regrettable that Hillary Adams, a bright and
gifted person, would include in her post that she is or was
a disabled or a special needs child. As multiple media
appearances clearly demonstrate, Hillary Adams is
articulate, possesses a superior IQ, and is capable of
functioning as a productive adult in today’s complex
society. No one should take the affliction of cerebral
palsy lightly. Hillary’s parents did not. Hillary’s
condition was monitored as a child and her medical needs
met. However, neither should a perfectly capable adult try
to use an affliction as a device for media sympathy. It
should now be apparent to the world that “disabled” was
mislabeled.
In response to the internet post, the media has
appropriately attempted to understand why Hillary Adams
chose the present time to disseminate the video. To many,
her answers to those questions have been confusing and
hollow. As she has said by recent interview, she “hoarded”
the secret tape for future use, but has not explained, even
now, for what purpose. Very few people find palatable her
claim that it was to “help” her father.
Perhaps Hillary Adams should explain, if she felt she
was raised by a tyrannical father, a claim shared with no
one until five years after adulthood, why she insisted on
living with her father and not her mother from the time of
her parent’s divorce, until she moved out on her own.
Hillary Adams has been living on her own for some time, and
has been an adult for almost six years, so why post the
video in late 2011?
William Adams is of the opinion that Hillary Adams is
an extremely bright, highly functional, adult. The media
has described her as a piano prodigy, who has competed at
Carnegie Hall on multiple occasions. As one of Hillary’s
long term teachers noted in the press, Hillary, so close to
accomplishment, has of recent “inexplicably dropped out,
just two classes shy of completing her [college] studies.”
The video in question was recorded well before Hillary
graduated high school. If the public must know, just prior
to the You Tube upload, a concerned father shared with his
23 year old daughter that he was unwilling to continue to
work hard and be her primary source of financial support,
if she was going to simply “drop out”, and strive to
achieve no more in life than to work part time at a video
game store. Hillary warned her father if he reduced her
financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile,
which her father had provided, he would live to regret it.
The post was then uploaded. The public may wonder if this
is the tyranny of which Hillary Adams speaks as her reason
to disseminate the video seven years after it was recorded,
and five years into adulthood? Is this the reason she
“hoarded” the video for seven years?
William Adams regrets the interruption and
inconvenience his daughter’s post has caused to the Aransas
County, Texas community. Judge Adams is confident that
when the dust settles and international media attention has
passed, and the work ahead, whether civil, criminal, or
administrative has taken it’s full course and has been
fully developed, with an opportunity for all sides to ask
and answer relevant questions, it will be concluded that
Hillary Adam’s actions in 2011 were misguided and
misleading.
Judge Adams regrets, if true, that his daughter
believes he is in need of healing from the family divorce.
Divorce is certainly traumatic, and takes a significant
toll on all, especially children. Judge Adams is of the
opinion that Hillary’s gesture is little more than a much
needed but hard to believe explanation of why she chose to
post the video. If this entire event was a plea for help
and healing, the methodology is certainly unorthodox.
Judge Adams, who among other reasons, still has a minor
daughter to consider, chooses to involve the media as
little as possible whilst personal family matters are
sorted through. The public may ponder what consideration
Hillary Adams gave her little sister before subjecting the
entire family to world-wide microscopic scrutiny, and
permanent consequences.
It is Judge Adams’ civic responsibility to respond to
whatever investigations may result from a revelation of the
disciplinary actions resorted to by his former wife and him
on the viral video. Those investigations will require
answers to many questions raised by the media and public
and for which no appropriate forum has been chosen to date.
He is confident the process will be managed in accordance
with the law. For the sake of his family, co-workers, and
Aransas County officials who must endure the additional
work and expense, he wishes that the process not be played
out daily on a national stage.


I enjoyed reading this to see what type of spin these evils fuckers could put on it. Reminds me of Fox News for some reason.
Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:29 am
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That shit is fucking infuriating.
Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:10 am
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i'm stuck in this fucked-up fugue state in which i can only ponder how far away we are from the america in which this guy gets a top-rated cable courtroom show, in which he doles out advice to parents on good ol' switch-whippin southern justice.
Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:16 pm
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Yeah, this isn't shaping up to be a very happy ending. This dude really does seem to believe his own bullshit, and that's pretty scary. If he ends up getting to keep his job then I don't even know what to say. Shit is fucked and stuff.
Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:54 pm
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In my opinion the beating or spanking or whatever you want to call it isn't all that bad. I've gotten it worse with a belt. At her age me and my brother would get more rough when we horsed around though we're guys. It seems to me the guy isn't hitting her nearly as hard as he can. He didn't lose control. A belt doesn't even hurt a whole lot not like say a switch like my Dad recieved from his mom. I'm not defending this guy though.

With that being said, what a fucking asshole... for putting a video game on a computer? That's more like a groundable offense. I don't want to know what would happen if this girl got in some real trouble like drugs or crime. I don't think this dude should be a judge.
Post Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:39 am
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27 wrote:
In my opinion the beating or spanking or whatever you want to call it isn't all that bad. I've gotten it worse with a belt. At her age me and my brother would get more rough when we horsed around though we're guys. It seems to me the guy isn't hitting her nearly as hard as he can. He didn't lose control. A belt doesn't even hurt a whole lot not like say a switch like my Dad recieved from his mom. I'm not defending this guy though.

With that being said, what a fucking asshole... for putting a video game on a computer? That's more like a groundable offense. I don't want to know what would happen if this girl got in some real trouble like drugs or crime. I don't think this dude should be a judge.
I think the whipping with the belt was over the top and did get out of control. He was overtly angry and swinging like a mad man at times. When you discipline a child you need to explain what they did wrong and talk about consequences. The fact that he used a belt at all is atrocious. He left just to grab his own belt to continue the beating after his point was already made. Even in the most diluted of minds, a 5 minute long lashing makes no fucking sense.

I am sure a lot of us have received similar spankings varying in severity, but this video helps in aiding the discussion of how parents are disciplining their children. This girl's punishment did not fit the crime at all. Her screams for him to stop were heart wrenching and the demeanor in which he berated her and overpowered a defenseless young girl was disgusting.
Post Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:27 am
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Spanking is just wrong in general, and that's pretty much where that conversation begins and ends.
Post Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:00 am
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27 wrote:
In my opinion the beating or spanking or whatever you want to call it isn't all that bad. I've gotten it worse with a belt. At her age me and my brother would get more rough when we horsed around though we're guys. It seems to me the guy isn't hitting her nearly as hard as he can. He didn't lose control. A belt doesn't even hurt a whole lot not like say a switch like my Dad recieved from his mom. I'm not defending this guy though.

With that being said, what a fucking asshole... for putting a video game on a computer? That's more like a groundable offense. I don't want to know what would happen if this girl got in some real trouble like drugs or crime. I don't think this dude should be a judge.


Please don't have kids.
Post Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:08 am
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desert penguin wrote:
Spanking is just wrong in general, and that's pretty much where that conversation begins and ends.
Saying all spanking is wrong is a bit ridiculous. I was spanked a few times as a child, and I'm probably a better person for it. As horrible as it sounds, trauma builds character. Used judiciously, on certain occasions for certain kids, spanking can be a useful parenting tool.

Don't get me wrong though, that video is fucked up and that guy should lose his job.
Post Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:24 am
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Trauma does "build character," but usually not a very positive one. You know what I learned from being beaten and spanked as a child? That I would never do those things to my children because all they do is build resentment and fear. We're not animals and homes shouldn't be dictatorships. There is a difference between discipline and abuse and William Adams has just demonstrated what that is.
Post Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:40 am
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Blah. The following is of course, all my own opinion, and having two kids now, I know, it's hard to judge other people's moral stances in parenting, (barring the extreme).
It's not the spanking that builds resentment and fear, it's how the spanking is administered. My parents spanked me a dozen times or so as a kid. And I deserved it, I was a bastard of a kid. Not mean, but going to get myself killed by walking into traffic kinda kid. I love my parents more than almost anyone. They're really great people. Spanking is not wrong, it's a tool like any other. But it should only be administered in the case of avoiding a much greater harm possible to the kid, or by the kid. That's my stance anyway.

This guy's clearly reveling in his rage. Douchebag for sure.
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