GrantherBirdly
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I wonder how we got the body. If it was a drone strike you would think there wouldn't be personnel around to locate and retrieve the body. my guess is it was a strike force on some borne identity shit. |
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redball
Joined: 12 May 2006
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His family is very rich and some of them are still well respected. They've mostly disowned him and cooperated with authorities seeking him for years. That's surely how we have DNA.
This doesn't mean terrorism is defeated, obviously. However, it is a huge win that will surely demoralize the terrorists. Even if bin Laden died of natural causes it would have been a huge loss for al Qaeda, but to have US forces find and kill him is even bigger.
Also, Osama/Usama is just a difference in translation. There isn't really a correct translation unless bin Laden has provided it himself. I think Usama is what the FBI uses, not sure. |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:14 pm |
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GrantherBirdly
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yeah I assumed that was the case, I guess I'd just never seen it spelled like that and didn't think fox news would be the organization to adopt the unconventional spelling. |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:16 pm |
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neveragainlikesheep
Joined: 22 May 2008
Posts: 2536
Location: TKO from Tokyo |
He's been dead for years I bet. |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:18 pm |
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Joshua Kane
Joined: 14 Jul 2008
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I think it motivates terrorists far more than demoralizes them. Now they got something to prove. Bin laden was basically in retirement, no? |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:19 pm |
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redball
Joined: 12 May 2006
Posts: 6849
Location: Northern New Jersey |
He was their figure head. That we couldn't capture him was a huge boon to recruitment. Killing a terrorist isn't as good for recruitment as killing of civilians.
This is an extremely good thing. The fuck is wrong with you trying to spin it immediately? |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:23 pm |
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Joshua Kane
Joined: 14 Jul 2008
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Location: Carlsbad, CA |
The ISI was involved, but how long did the ISI keep the US in the dark before the US realized? All is opaque in this sorta thing, will likely remain so. |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:24 pm |
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Eric B
Joined: 30 May 2005
Posts: 1327
Location: Omaha, Ne |
Supposedly US ground forces got him. |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:24 pm |
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Jesse
Joined: 02 Jul 2002
Posts: 6166
Location: privileged homeless |
He was OUR figurehead, not theirs. |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:42 pm |
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Raoul DeGroot
Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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Location: Son Quest |
redball wrote:
He was their figure head. That we couldn't capture him was a huge boon to recruitment. Killing a terrorist isn't as good for recruitment as killing of civilians.
This is an extremely good thing. The fuck is wrong with you trying to spin it immediately?
Really? Martyrs are much more useful a symbol than a dude hiding under a rock somewhere. He'll still be a figurehead, just a better and more tragic/mythic one now.
It's not like he was caught in action like Che Guevara or something.
Taking him prisoner might've been useful and humiliating. This is mostly a big meh. Believe it, sir. |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:43 pm |
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Asterax
Joined: 21 Nov 2002
Posts: 1883
Location: Maine |
If this thread ends up like the last few pages of this thread (excluding crash's news links) then I am going to avoid it like the plague. |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:51 pm |
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Plum Puddin'
Joined: 26 May 2008
Posts: 1644
Location: Get off my lawn. |
What do you do with a corpse like that?
Do you preserve it so future generations can have their photo taken giving him the finger while wearing a USA flag turban or pointing at his junk Abu Ghraiby style?
Do you cut off the head and put it in a jar of alcohol just because you can?
Is some rich guy gonna buy his beard for his private collection?
Or do they just dump it in a ditch some where? |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:54 pm |
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badjerk
Joined: 16 Apr 2006
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:56 pm |
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Bob_ptmfus
Joined: 11 Jan 2007
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So to everyone who says this makes him a martyr: Do you think we should have just left him alive/uncaptured? Do you think we should have not followed up on the intelligence about his whereabouts? |
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Sun May 01, 2011 9:58 pm |
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