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bobbyC



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crash wrote:
a conspiracy theorist is someone who has an extremely pessimistic take on human morality and an extremely optimistic take on human intelligence.


more like their own intelligence.
Post Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:18 am
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firefly



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"Oil based food chain".

This is really fucked up:

Post Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:17 am
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crash



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the population control stuff is laughable. almost all the problems with our government and corporations stem from the fact that they value short term gain over long term sustainability. no one is thinking as far about population growth (at least in this country - we have plenty of space left). we spill oil because our accountability is the next paycheck / election - not the distant future.

what's wrong that that video?
Post Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:10 pm
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firefly



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Nobody talking about BP spill no more??? Okay, let me update you on the CONSPIRACY REPTILIAN UFO stuff.

First, Obama and BP claim that most of the oil is gone, eaten up by micro organisms!!!! ahahaha REALLY??? Talk about a conspiracy theory.



Next, an interview with a clean up worker:



Then - and here's a real conspiracy - Matt Simmons, oil expert and BP conspiracy theorist DIES of heart attack in his hottub. Here's an interview he gave a couple months before his death:



And now .... dead fish:



(notice that the persons who didn't want to appear on camera claim that it's the dispersent (corexit) that is causing the deaths, not LACK OF OXYGEN???



Again LACK OF OXYGEN???? Hot Water??? Fuck ....
Post Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:04 am
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MYOWNCLICHE



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You got the mayor and..….

.................... It is totally Jaws all over again.

Instead of the great white shark you have an oil spill
and Corexit 9500.

Obama swims in Gulf, says beaches open for business

Que the Jaws music.
Post Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:29 pm
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firefly



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This sounds unbelievably sketchy ....

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/305096#ixzz1HsjsqUUn

Obama administration restricts findings on Gulf’s dead dolphins
By Lynn Herrmann.

Biloxi - The Obama administration has issued a gag order on data over the recent spike of dead dolphins, including many stillborn infants, washing up on Mississippi and Alabama shorelines, and scientists say the restriction undermines the scientific process.

An abnormal dolphin mortality this year along the Gulf coast has become part of a federal criminal investigation over last year’s BP oil spill disaster and as a result, has led the US government to clamp down on biologists’ findings, with orders to keep the results confidential.
The dolphin die-off, labeled an “unusual mortality event (UME),” resulted in wildlife biologists being contracted by the National Marine Fisheries Service to record the recent spike in dolphin deaths by collecting tissue samples and specimens for the agency, but late last month were privately ordered to keep their results under wraps.

Reuters has obtained a copy of the agency letter that states, in part: “Because of the seriousness of the legal case, no data or findings may be released, presented or discussed outside the UME investigative team without prior approval.”

One biologist involved with tracking dolphin mortalities for over 20 years and speaking on the condition of anonymity, told Reuters that: “It throws accountability right out the window. We are confused and ... we are angry because they claim they want teamwork, but at the same time they are leaving the marine experts out of the loop completely.”
Some scientists said they have received a personal rebuke from government officials about “speaking out of turn” to the media over attempts at determining the dolphins’ deaths.

Additionally, these scientists say the collected specimens and samples are being turned over to the government for evaluation under a deal that omits independent scientists from the final results of lab tests.
Almost 200 dead bottlenose dolphin bodies have been found since mid-January through this week along shorelines of Gulf coast states, including Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, Reuters notes. About half of the carcasses are newborns or stillborn infants.
That number is around 14 times the average numbers recorded during the same time frame between 2002 and 2007 and has coincidentally occurred during the first calving season since the BP Deepwater Horizon debacle last year in the Gulf.

Although many of the dolphin specimens recently collected show no outward signs of oil contamination, lab analysis is crucial in helping to determine their deaths.

Some experts believe the recent surge of deaths is the result of dolphins inhaling or ingesting oil during the oil spill, the results of which are just now beginning to show their toll, including a possible upsurge in dolphin miscarriages.

The recent spike in dolphin deaths has compounded the dolphin mortality problem, as scientists were already busy attempting to determine the deaths of nearly 90 dead dolphins, mostly adults, that washed up along the US Gulf coast during the weeks and months after the BP disaster.
Some are questioning the Marine Fisheries Service, part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and its delay in providing dolphin samples to laboratories.

“It is surprising that it has been almost a full year since the spill, and they still haven't selected labs for this kind of work,” said Ruth Carmichael, of the independent Dauphin Island Sea Lab, located in Alabama, according to Reuters. “I can only hope that this process is a good thing. I just don’t know. This is an unfortunate situation,” she added.

Officials with the NOAA state the confidentiality measures are an integral part of the current investigation over the BP oil spill.

“We are treating the evidence, which are the dolphin samples, like a murder case,” said Dr. Erin Fougeres, a Fisheries Service marine biologist, Reuters notes. “The chain of custody is being closely watched. Every dolphin sample is considered evidence in the BP case now,” she added.
Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:46 am
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firefly



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Also, I've been meaning to post this:



This is really sad :(
Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:48 am
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xGREENxCLOVERx



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firefly wrote:
Also, I've been meaning to post this:



This is really sad :(

Good god, that's heartbreaking.
Post Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:02 pm
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Plum Puddin'



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It's ok now though.

The owners of that rig that blew up & killed 11 dudes just gave themselves awesome safety bonuses.

And BP have struck another deal with the US to drill in the gulf again, starting in a few months.




Post Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:31 pm
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firefly



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One year later, shit is getting worse ....

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/4/20/death_toll_from_bp_spill_still

"We have already had many deaths of humans directly attributed to this disaster," says investigative journalist Dahr Jamail. "I recently spoke to Dr. Mike Robichaux, a doctor in Louisiana who has treated scores of people, and he said if we do not have federal government intervention immediately to deal with this and start treating people and really start cleaning this up appropriately we are going to have a lot of dead people on our hands."

Just like 9/11, clean up and rescue workers were told it was safe to breath the air. Then shortly after people started dying.

Best way to cover up a crime is to get rid of all the eye witnesses.
Post Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:48 am
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crash



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oh firefly you so crazy.
Post Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:04 am
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Happy BP Day!

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Raoul DeGroot



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I really think firefly needs to start taking the scientology route where you go for the slow reveal of your actual world view.
Not saying your world view is crazy like scientology, necessarily...
..but it sounds kinda crazy to the relatively openminded people on this board.

When you become a second Jesse- but about geopolitics instead of secondhand feminism, that's when you know something in your delivery has gone awry...

People should be able to say "huh, that's food for thought..." Not "Oh boy not this guy again!"

whaddyagonnado

although crash does have strong yakub ways thats true... Always has. despite himself.
Post Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:21 pm
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Post Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:44 pm
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firefly



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Raoul DeGroot wrote:
I really think firefly needs to start taking the scientology route where you go for the slow reveal of your actual world view.
Not saying your world view is crazy like scientology, necessarily...
..but it sounds kinda crazy to the relatively openminded people on this board.

When you become a second Jesse- but about geopolitics instead of secondhand feminism, that's when you know something in your delivery has gone awry...

People should be able to say "huh, that's food for thought..." Not "Oh boy not this guy again!"

whaddyagonnado

although crash does have strong yakub ways thats true... Always has. despite himself.


Maybe there's something wrong with my approach ... I remember a few years ago when I first became an activist I was probably pretty obnoxious with my point of view. I was excited that I found a way to channel my frustration with the world and I was starting to get results.

But despite my faults at presenting my world view on this forum, there are too many people who will associate shit with what other people think. For instance, most people thought my culture jamming and other activist projects were stupid, then B Dolan was like "woah, firefly's awesome." and most people turned around. Then Dolan was like "woah, I don't like firefly anymore" and everyone went back. haha. People play too much "follow the leader".

So when I post something that is as serious as this which has very credible sources and people pass it off as "crazy conspiracy nonsense" they are being lazy, making associations and playing follow the leader.

Maybe it is my fault (having to do with my approach) and if someone wants to comment on why they think that is I'd be happy to hear it but I don't think it's my fault anymore.
Post Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:38 am
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