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mortalthoughts
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gov rick synder (R) of michigan is a jack ass  Reply with quote  

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not really a fan a maddow but i agree with her on her breakdown of this to a certain degree
opionons? watch the whole thing its pretty intresting
Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:46 pm
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Szechwan



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Yeah I'd say Michigan looks a bit fucked. Didn't get watch the entire clip, any mention of how far along the bill is?
Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:30 pm
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And people thought Granholm was fucking shit up... Man o man. Maddow nails it when she calls Snyder's process "shock doctrine." He overtaxes the elderly, the poor, and the public school contributors to give big business tax breaks under the guise of reducing the state deficit. Snyder can then declare any town to be in a "financial emergency" at will, which allows him to revoke any and all elected officials and replace them with whomever he sees fit. What is this, the Middle East? This is exactly the sort of thing Naomi Klein was talking about, only at home and without war. It turns out there's more than one way to skin a state.
Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:22 pm
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Re: gov rick synder (R) of michigan is a jack ass  Reply with quote  

mortalthoughts wrote:
not really a fan a maddow


Why not?
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:29 am
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Wow, Republicans are out of control. Eliminating democracy and eliminating the middle-class.
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:27 am
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sick_transit wrote:
Wow, Republicans are out of control. Eliminating democracy and eliminating the middle-class.


Yep, they're trying to gut us.

I've been telling my moronic friends this forever and now they are starting to see the truth. These guys are fucking corporate criminals through and through.
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:08 am
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Re: gov rick synder (R) of michigan is a jack ass  Reply with quote  

Sage Francis wrote:
mortalthoughts wrote:
not really a fan a maddow


Why not?


Two reasons:

1) I could do without the sarcasm, snarkiness and holier-than-thou attitude

2) This clip isn't an example of it, but I'm not a fan of anyone who expresses absolute certainty about extremely complex issues. No one can be certain that withdrawing now is the best plan in Afghanistan, or that plan x is the best way to fix the economy.
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:00 am
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Surely this law can't be legal under the state constitution? To just nullify elections like that. And then of course contracts that the towns have made are legally binding.
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:02 am
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Re: gov rick synder (R) of michigan is a jack ass  Reply with quote  

Sage Francis wrote:
mortalthoughts wrote:
not really a fan a maddow


Why not?


just cant stand all the "un biased" 'news' on tv these days
not just her i barley watch news on tv at all anymore........
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:44 am
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Well... at least I can try to look at the positive side and say that since I'm from Michigan it looks like I'll have a lot of inspiration for new songs in the near future thanks to all this political deuchebaggery.

Most everyone I know is already fucked financially here, kind of scary/hard to imagine it getting worse. :/
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:38 am
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Charlie Foxtrot wrote:
Surely this law can't be legal under the state constitution? To just nullify elections like that. And then of course contracts that the towns have made are legally binding.


It's not. But that's why Snyder and the Republicans are trying really hard to push it through the state Congress.
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:51 am
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Szechwan wrote:
Yeah I'd say Michigan looks a bit fucked. Didn't watch the entire clip



Oi...
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:30 am
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Michael Moore's been doing some great work in regards to the attacks on workers. He gave a great speech in Madison last week, and he's starting to agitate for similar action in Michigan now, too. Apparently, there are some big protests planned there for Wednesday.


www.michaelmoore.com


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DO SOMETHING at Michigan's Capitol in Lansing:

* Wednesday, March 16th: Stand Up for Michigan
Join the Michigan AFL-CIO affiliate unions and Working
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NO to GOP attacks on Michigan's middle class


* GET ON THE BUS FOR WEDNESDAY PROTEST:

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11:00 AM-1:00 PM to say NO to Republican attacks
on Michigan's seniors

* Fire Snyder - Reclaim Michigan, Recall Rick Snyder![/url]
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Captiv8 wrote:
Charlie Foxtrot wrote:
Surely this law can't be legal under the state constitution? To just nullify elections like that. And then of course contracts that the towns have made are legally binding.


It's not. But that's why Snyder and the Republicans are trying really hard to push it through the state Congress.


But then won't it be overturned in court?
Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:20 pm
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Re: gov rick synder (R) of michigan is a jack ass  Reply with quote  

mortalthoughts wrote:
Sage Francis wrote:
mortalthoughts wrote:
not really a fan a maddow


Why not?


just cant stand all the "un biased" 'news' on tv these days
not just her i barley watch news on tv at all anymore........


she openly admits being left wing and biased?

i like her myself, wish we had one down here. Australia is like every newpaper just reports the NYT. No left wing press at all
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