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benjy compson



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C.R.A.Z.Y wrote:
on the subject of the birds i just read somewhere that it was powerlines that killed the birds. i don't know how likely that is...sounds fishy to me.





an average, half to block length powerline may kill
a fraction of a good sized flock, regardless of breed
&/or size... but these kills involve LARGE numbers


T-Wrex wrote:
birds are cool..

i never cared or payed attention the all the varieties when i was a kid or a teen.. but now that i'm an old man, every time I see something i don't recognize, i run home and use WhatBird.com to find out what it was....

in fact, i used it today...





your eyesight, even if it's 20/20 or somewhere
close, won't suffice - especially in an urban setting...

if you really wanna peep out a bird's physical traits, a pair
of entry level 10x50 binoculars will satiate your bird ogling needs

carrying one around is a faux pas, yes - but
w/ the current fashion trends, you won't lose

also, that website you cited is fine - but if you want
comprehensive texts, roger tory peterson's oeuvre is it
Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:16 am
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Birds scare the shit out of me. I find them cold and plotting, and I have phobias about them pecking my eyes out.

Dead birds are scary too though. I always think I've stumbled upon the beginning of some sort of super virus when I see them, all bloated and dead.
Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:30 am
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crash



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medicineman wrote:
crash wrote:

looks to me like it was a rather extraordinary event with the blackbirds and the rest of the stories are just run of the mill kills that people are noticing due to the increased attention.

What, is it just affecting corvids? That just happen to be in such tight concentrations right now? And that experience these die-offs sometimes in winter?

i don't know what you're getting at, but what i'm saying is that i don't think all those kills that firefly posted are related.

as far as the chesapeake fish kill, it's being blamed on cold water:
http://dcist.com/2011/01/millions_of_fish_die_in_chesapeake.php
Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:02 am
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crash wrote:
medicineman wrote:
crash wrote:

looks to me like it was a rather extraordinary event with the blackbirds and the rest of the stories are just run of the mill kills that people are noticing due to the increased attention.

What, is it just affecting corvids? That just happen to be in such tight concentrations right now? And that experience these die-offs sometimes in winter?

i don't know what you're getting at, but what i'm saying is that i don't think all those kills that firefly posted are related.

as far as the chesapeake fish kill, it's being blamed on cold water:
http://dcist.com/2011/01/millions_of_fish_die_in_chesapeake.php


I was talking to benjy, who I think is being alarmist for someone who seems to be fairly knowledgeable. Or isn't reading very carefully.

Yes that was a confusing awkward quote. I was drunk.
Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:47 am
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"Correlation does not imply causation"
Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:57 am
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I've got a bird feeder outside my window for my cats viewing enjoyment..
..and when the window is open in the summer and i can hear 'em, I can now sometimes tell what is out there by the sounds.
I like hearing Chickadees. It sounds like they're saying their name.
It's all like, "Chicka-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de..."

One of my favorite newly discovered birds is a Killdeer.
I found a couple nesting in the middle of a field behind my job..
They're about the size of a Pigeon, walk like chicken with long legs..
And I can hear their chirp early in the morning when I park and walk into work.

Ducks are fucking sweet too.
There's this gang of 'em who claim this river near my house..
Most of 'em are white with orange bills...
but there's this one who is part of the fam..
He's dark green with salt and pepper hair and a red lucha libra mask..

Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:43 pm
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T-Wrex wrote:
I've got a bird feeder outside my window for my cats viewing enjoyment..
..and when the window is open in the summer and i can hear 'em, I can now sometimes tell what is out there by the sounds.
I like hearing Chickadees. It sounds like they're saying their name.
It's all like, "Chicka-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de..."

One of my favorite newly discovered birds is a Killdeer.
I found a couple nesting in the middle of a field behind my job..
They're about the size of a Pigeon, walk like chicken with long legs..
And I can hear their chirp early in the morning when I park and walk into work.

Ducks are fucking sweet too.
There's this gang of 'em who claim this river near my house..
Most of 'em are white with orange bills...
but there's this one who is part of the fam..
He's dark green with salt and pepper hair and a red lucha libra mask..




Your white ducks are domestic ducks. Barnyard ducks basically although they can live ferally sometimes.

The weird guy though, I have no fucking clue what that thing is. It most closely resembles a King Eider of any bird that I am aware of but the colors of the head are wrong. It may be possible that it is a cross breed with your domestic guys or a very oddly colored domestic duck. Do you have any other pictures of it?
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Birds are AWESOME.

the other night I heard a Great Horned Owl outside my window, undoubtedly wooing me into his owl world to make owl babies (I obliged...don't judge)


And THEN, the most magnificent thing happened last week when I was walking to the bank. I was just looking down and watching where I was walking since there was so much ice on the sidewalk when I heard this noise. It was like several plastic bags tumbling across the blacktop- a strange scuffing, wind, rustling sound. I turned my head to the right and a GIANT hawk cut off my path and perched low in a tree about 3' from my head.

I stopped and we just looked at one another for a while. This thing was massive- like 2.5' tall, mostly white but with speckles of tan. I have never seen a hawk like this before, and I am always hawk watching.

I'm pretty sure it was a harrier, which is awesome because they're endangered I think. This thing was absolutely stunning.




edited for correct owl... barn owls don't hoo-hoo-hoooo, they say something about cooking....


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Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:13 pm
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^ that's awesome

i love those moments when you just freeze and watch the animal. you know he's sizing you up too.

a few weeks ago i was on 95 in NJ and came across this guy in a gas station parking lot. he let me get quite close before he flew off (my camera only has x4 zoom). he was a little guy though, only about 1.5'

Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:18 pm
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crash wrote:
^ that's awesome

i love those moments when you just freeze and watch the animal. you know he's sizing you up too.

a few weeks ago i was on 95 in NJ and came across this guy in a gas station parking lot. he let me get quite close before he flew off (my camera only has x4 zoom). he was a little guy though, only about 1.5'




That looks like a Broad-Winged Hawk to me, although it'd be a bit of a late migrant, depending on how many weeks ago this was? The migrate in big groups in the mid-fall, and make their way across the sky circling all together en masse. It's pretty stunning. Great pic.

Zagadka is that the bird you saw or is that a Harrier picture you looked up? Behavior wise, that sounds Harrier-like. They often fly very low to the ground near forest edges or woods of medium thickness...they rarely soar, they are lurkers, like owls that hunt in the daytime.

And you're quite right the owl outside your window probably was wooing indeed! Courtship is already well underway for many species of owls...couples will be incubating eggs very soon. Owls breed very early in the season so that they when spring proper begins and rabbits and such are emerging and beginning to make babies they can take full advantage of the easy hunting to feed their hatchlings.

Yay, bird thread! *Sniff* I thought this day would never come...
Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:33 pm
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Duck


Duck


Goose.. :-D
Post Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:40 pm
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Yeah those angles are much more expository. Yeah it doesn't have the ridge like an Eider. I think it's just a weird domestic duck. He's pretty cool looking though.
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medicineman wrote:
Yay, bird thread! *Sniff* I thought this day would never come...


It only took a couple thousands of em to die before we all cared...
...kinda like Haitians.
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medicineman wrote:
Yeah those angles are much more expository. Yeah it doesn't have the ridge like an Eider. I think it's just a weird domestic duck. He's pretty cool looking though.


It could be a toxic mutation.
The rivers, watershed and water table 'round here (760sq mi.) is pretty contaminated..
http://www.epa.gov/greatlakes/aoc/clintriv.html
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it was 12/19 to be precise. actually not in NJ, because i remember pumping the gas. i think it was somewhere on 84 between boston and hartford.
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