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remind



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Police confiscate man's upside down flag on 4th of July  Reply with quote  

Dont' know if you guys heard about this. Sorry if I'm late:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090710/ap_on_re_us/us_upside_down_flag


By ROBERT IMRIE, Associated Press Writer Robert Imrie, Associated Press Writer Fri Jul 10, 2:44 pm ET

WAUSAU, Wis. An American flag flown upside down as a protest in a northern Wisconsin village was seized by police before a Fourth of July parade and the businessman who flew it an Iraq war veteran claims the officers trespassed and stole his property.

A day after the parade, police returned the flag and the man's protest over a liquor license continued.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin is considering legal action against the village of Crivitz for violating Vito Congine Jr.'s' First Amendment rights, Executive Director Chris Ahmuty said.

"It is not often that you see something this blatant," Ahmuty said.

In mid-June, Congine, 46, began flying the flag upside down an accepted way to signal distress outside the restaurant he wants to open in Crivitz, a village of about 1,000 people some 65 miles north of Green Bay.

He said his distress is likely bankruptcy because the village board refused to grant him a liquor license after he spent nearly $200,000 to buy and remodel a downtown building for an Italian supper club.

Congine's upside-down-flag represents distress to him; to others in town, it represents disrespect of the flag.

Hours before a Fourth of July parade, four police officers went to Congine's property and removed the flag under the advice of Marinette County District Attorney Allen Brey.

Neighbor Steven Klein watched in disbelief.

"I said, 'What are you doing?' Klein said. "They said, 'It is none of your business.'"

The next day, police returned the flag.

Brey declined comment Friday.

Marinette County Sheriff Jim Kanikula said it was not illegal to fly the flag upside down but people were upset and it was the Fourth of July.

"It is illegal to cause a disruption," he said.

The parade went on without any problems, Kanikula said.

Village President John Deschane, 60, an Army veteran who served in Vietnam, said many people in town believe it's disrespectful to fly the flag upside down.

"If he wants to protest, let him protest but find a different way to do it," Deschane said.

Congine, a Marine veteran who served in Iraq in 2004, said he intends to keep flying the flag upside down.

"It is pretty bad when I go and fight a tyrannical government somewhere else," Congine said, "and then I come home to find it right here at my front door."



That quotation at the end is great.
Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:27 am
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Bring that Beat Back



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I blame the flag's design. I bet this never happens in Japan, for example.
Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:50 am
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phataccino



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Re: Police confiscate man's upside down flag on 4th of July  Reply with quote  

remind wrote:
Marinette County Sheriff Jim Kanikula said it was not illegal to fly the flag upside down but people were upset and it was the Fourth of July.

Well then. You can't expect people to have to be upset. Especially not on the 4th of July.
Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:06 am
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Bring that Beat Back wrote:
I blame the flag's design. I bet this never happens in Japan, for example.


the japs hang em sideways
kekekeke
Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:25 am
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R. Kamidees



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Um, I can't think of a better way to express our freedoms on the 4th then to exercise freedom of expression.

People have no right to be upset. The Declaration doesn't say, "Now you are free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't upset the neighbors."
Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:56 am
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remind



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Yeah. And if it really bothered people that much, shouldn't it upset them every day? If only people would cut the bullshit.
Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:36 pm
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neveragainlikesheep



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duxz wrote:
Bring that Beat Back wrote:
I blame the flag's design. I bet this never happens in Japan, for example.


the japs hang em sideways
kekekeke


That's a bad look dimwit.
Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:45 pm
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DM



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duxz wrote:
Bring that Beat Back wrote:
I blame the flag's design. I bet this never happens in Japan, for example.


the japs hang em sideways
kekekeke


Boo. What a douchey joke.
Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:49 pm
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I didn't know that was an acceptable way to signal distress, but regardless he should be able to do what he wants with flag flying. It's not like he lit it on fire or wiped his ass with it. But projecting oneself as anti-patriotic in a small town isn't a great way to ensure he gets that liquor license. Or patrons.
Post Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:44 am
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i'd be kinda pissed if i spent 200K on my business and got rejected. hanging the flag upside won't do much of anything though except for express his disappointment; like the comment above, he didn't set it on fire or etc. so i don't see the big deal as far as this. coming back from a war zone to start your business and get screwed.....sucks......
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Captiv8 wrote:
It's not like he lit it on fire or wiped his ass with it.

Which he also should be allowed to do.
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