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Sage Francis
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Rep. Pete Stark speaks out  Reply with quote  

"The bottom line is I don't trust this president and
his advisors"
Not every Democrat has caved to Bush's martial fervor.
Rep. Pete Stark makes it stunningly clear why he voted
against the Iraq war resolution.

Editor's note: Below is the fiery statement delivered
on the floor of the House Wednesday by veteran
California Democrat Rep. Pete Stark.

Oct. 10, 2002 | "Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition
to this resolution (authorizing military force against
Iraq). I am deeply troubled that lives may be lost
without a meaningful attempt to bring Iraq into
compliance with U.N. resolutions through careful and
cautious diplomacy.

"The bottom line is I don't trust this president and
his advisors.

"Make no mistake, we are voting on a resolution that
grants total authority to the president, who wants to
invade a sovereign nation without any specific act of
provocation. This would authorize the United States to
act as the aggressor for the first time in our
history. It sets a precedent for our nation -- or any
nation -- to exercise brute force anywhere in the
world without regard to international law or
international consensus.

"Congress must not walk in lockstep behind a president
who has been so callous to proceed without
reservation, as if war was of no real consequence.

"You know, three years ago in December, Molly Ivins,
an observer of Texas politics, wrote: 'For an
upper-class white boy, Bush comes on way too hard. At
a guess, to make up for being an upper-class white
boy.'

"'Somebody,' she said, 'should be worrying about how
all this could affect his handling of future
encounters with some Saddam Hussein.' How prophetic,
Ms. Ivins.

"Let us not forget that our president -- our commander
in chief -- has no experience with, or knowledge of,
war. In fact, he admits that he was at best ambivalent
about the Vietnam War. He skirted his own military
service and then failed to serve out his time in the
National Guard. And, he reported years later that at
the height of that conflict in 1968 he didn't notice
'any heavy stuff going on.'"

"So we have a president who thinks foreign territory
is the opponent's dugout and Kashmir is a sweater.

"What is most unconscionable is that there is not a
shred of evidence to justify the certain loss of life.
Do the generalized threats and half-truths of this
administration give any one of us in Congress the
confidence to tell a mother or father or family that
the loss of their child or loved one was in the name
of a just cause?

"Is the president's need for revenge for the threat
once posed to his father enough to justify the death
of any American?

"I submit the answer to these questions is no.

"Aside from the wisdom of going to war as Bush wants,
I am troubled by who pays for his capricious adventure
into world domination. The administration admits to a
cost of around $200 billion!

"Now, wealthy individuals won't pay. They've got big
tax cuts already. Corporations won't pay. They'll cook
the books and move overseas and then send their
contributions to the Republicans. Rich kids won't pay.
Their daddies will get them deferments as Big George
did for George W.

"Well then, who will pay?

"School kids will pay. There'll be no money to keep
them from being left behind -- way behind. Seniors
will pay. They'll pay big time as the Republicans
privatize Social Security and rob the Trust Fund to
pay for the capricious war. Medicare will be curtailed
and drugs will be more unaffordable. And there won't
be any money for a drug benefit because Bush will
spend it all on the war.

"Working folks will pay through loss of job security
and bargaining rights. Our grandchildren will pay
through the degradation of our air and water quality.
And the entire nation will pay as Bush continues to
destroy civil rights, women's rights and religious
freedom in a rush to phony patriotism and to courting
the messianic Pharisees of the religious right.

"The questions before the members of this House and to
all Americans are immense, but there are clear
answers. America is not currently confronted by a
genuine, proven, imminent threat from Iraq. The call
for war is wrong.

"And what greatly saddens me at this point in our
history is my fear that this entire spectacle has not
been planned for the well-being of the world, but for
the short-term political interest of our president.

"Now, I am also greatly disturbed that many Democratic
leaders have also put political calculation ahead of
the president's accountability to truth and reason by
supporting this resolution. But, I conclude that the
only answer is to vote no on the resolution before
us."


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Post Fri Oct 11, 2002 8:03 pm
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futuristxen



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wow...damn I wish he was my representative.

haha, my state elected a deadman over Ashcroft...

I wouldn't be suprised if this guy caught a stray sniper bullet.
Post Fri Oct 11, 2002 8:32 pm
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just natalie



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Re: Rep. Pete Stark speaks out  Reply with quote  

Sage Francis wrote:


"So we have a president who thinks foreign territory
is the opponent's dugout and Kashmir is a sweater.






This is so true.
The world is so fucked up.
9/11/01 was the day that America finally realized that we do not live in a bubble.
Now Bush is going to send troops to fight for his revenge.
It's so true.
This fucking world is so messed up.
Damn it.
Post Fri Oct 11, 2002 9:57 pm
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naught



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What a wonderful country.
Post Fri Oct 11, 2002 10:38 pm
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darianluv



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I don't get why there aren't more politicians that actually know how to think. There is something wrong with you if you cant see this president for what he is, a joke. and to think that the majority supported him and are willing toput the fate of this country in his hands, i knew the system was messed up but... I'm afraid to think of what this country is forming into, I don't want to be here when this country is bombed to shit, I like canada better anyways.
Post Sat Oct 12, 2002 8:46 pm
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matt



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darianluv wrote:
I don't get why there aren't more politicians that actually know how to think. There is something wrong with you if you cant see this president for what he is, a joke.



They definitely do "know how to think". They're just dishonest about their motives.


Bush isn't politically smart, but that doesn't matter much. He knows what he's doing. Intelligent, in a very evil way. He probably gets off on the fact that he's the butt of latenite talk show jokes. He has alot of people fooled.
Post Sat Oct 12, 2002 8:58 pm
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darianluv



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^I still think they are a bunch of morons
Post Sat Oct 12, 2002 9:08 pm
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Bush isn't politically smart, but that doesn't matter much. He knows what he's doing. Intelligent, in a very evil way. He probably gets off on the fact that he's the butt of latenite talk show jokes. He has alot of people fooled.


Honestly, I've always felt that he truly is an idiot; its just that some smarter republicans have a stick up his ass that they control him with.
Post Sat Oct 12, 2002 10:11 pm
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